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Comment by wallawe | Hacker News Reader

I'm pumped for Beeper but have been on the wait list 6 months now, and am wondering if they're having implementation issues.

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We're working through our waitlist, talking to customers, getting feedback and iterating: https://blog.beeper.com/p/beeper-update-4-out-of-beta?s=w

Surprised the FAQ doesn't say anything about encryption/privacy.

The big selling point for Signal et. al. is knowing that corps/govs/etc can't spy on my conversations. If I was going to give another app permission to use my Signal, I'd need assurances I'm not sacrificing my security.

You are, by design. Beeper gets around the e2e encryption by just running WA themselves on their side; there is no other way for them to be doing what they say they are doing…

I run several bridges from my home. With End-to-Bridge Encryption enabled this gives you about the same security guarantees as E2EE with a second device added (Signal Desktop, etc). With Beeper you can do the same, IIRC. Their value proposition then hinges on how good their clients can aggregate conversations and different chat networks, I guess.

So _you_ run the bridge, not them?

But then _you_ need to make sure it's available 100% of the time?

Happy customer here. I prepaid to reserve a username and the invite came through pretty shortly thereafter, but ymmv.

I've been using it and loving it for a couple months now. I honestly didn't realize it wasn't open yet.

If you pay $120 for a year, you’ll be let in relatively quickly.

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