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Comment by riffic | Hacker News Reader

uh, tass.ru is not the most unbiased of sources here. Why are we linking to it and not say, someone a bit more neutral (for example, wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_cruiser_Moskva#Sinking)

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You're right, TASS is a Russian state press agency transmitting official propaganda but what this is an example of is Russians admitting their own loss. It rarely happens in this war, which makes this all the more interesting.

You can't hide your flagship sinking.

Because the fact that it is relayed by a pro-putin newspaper is significant. This was is also an information war, so analysing who reports the news is almost as important as what is reported.

TASS is a news agency, like Reuters or AP, not a newspaper.

While it's significant, it's also propaganda. At the very least, WP has a policy to maintain a neutral point of view and to only put things on the site which can be reliably sourced.

We should be sensitive to the power of a site like this in relaying harmful propaganda.

Harmful propaganda is good and informative if even it confirms the ship sunk.

If Ukraine or some US news agency announced it, I wouldn't believe it.

But now even Russia is admitting it - so it's as good as confirmed to me that Ukraine sank their ship.

this shouldn't be linked directly to from HN. Let others report what TASS is reporting.

Confirmation from a hostile source. If Tass admits it sank, it probably sank.

It amounts to "statement against interests." If Tass admits it sank, it sank.

... and you turn to Wikipedia when even its founder no longer trusts the website:

Wikipedia co-founder: I no longer trust the website I created - YouTube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0P4Cf0UCwU

> Larry Sanger

uh, yeah there's a reason he's no longer with the project. dude's got history.

I thought that was the point. To expose an obvious attempt at spinning information.

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