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I worked at a company that used the phrase "getting jamf'd" as a verb to describe when the management system broke things on your macbook.

E.g., "I'll be able to test that code change in a bit, I got Jamf'd pretty hard this morning and now my build is broken..."

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Either we were coworkers, or every company that uses JAMF ends up with that saying. In fact, we made a slack response that would post a gif of Jeremy Jamm from Parks and Recs saying "You just got JAMFed" whenever anyone mentioned JAMF.

We definitely all came to the same conclusion of being JAMF’ed.

> I worked at a company that used the phrase "getting jamf'd" as a verb to describe when the management system broke things on your macbook.

It's just a management framework - Do developers who use windows say "getting sccm'd" or "getting Intuned" when SCCM/Intune does management actions on their devices?

> I got Jamf'd pretty hard this morning and now my build is broken...

If the IT department is pushing stuff out through the management framework on the devices that is "breaking builds" - they are doing device management wrong.

And if the IT department is pushing out Config Profiles which break things people use every day, thats more a people problem than technology/Jamf problem. (as in the IT dept are morons)

I think part of the problem is that many IT departments have a culture which focuses on the needs of less-technical users. They often don't have a good appreciation of the more demanding needs of technical teams. Non-technical users need a lot of handholding – an approach which can be irritating to the technically advanced. A locked-down UI which doesn't let you change any settings may be the right approach for non-technical users, developers can find it infuriating that you won't let them try to solve their problem themselves, and instead force them to talk to a helpdesk who don't understand it either and want to follow some script ("Have you tried rebooting?"), before they let you talk to someone who actually understands what is going on

Maybe software like Jamf isn't inherently a problem, but it can encourage IT departments with that kind of culture to do more things to irritate developers (like automatically run buggy scripts on developer laptops without any notice or easy visibility into what those scripts are and what they do), which without that kind of management software available to them, they would have been less likely to try to do. Developers are more likely to have configured their environment in custom ways which will cause IT's buggy script to play up and cause problems

I used to work for Oracle, and while I was there Oracle had a whole separate IT department just for the engineering/R&D org, while the main IT department serviced the rest of the business (sales/support/finance/legal/HR/etc). I don't know whether Oracle still uses that setup, but (if the company is large enough to sustain it) that could be an approach to avoid some of this

We did use to whinge about group profiles a lot lol

SCCM is usually pretty below the radar.

When IT, Security, and compliance are stepping over each other with GPO, that’s when you really suffer.

My favorite was when some jackass deployed something via GPO that dropped a script in user space that triggered a serious Crowdstrike alert.

My experience of Jampf is that the jamf process “just” eats 99% of my cpu for about 15 minutes every time I do an npm install.

Yeah. I work in fintech and we have a whole slate of management/security apps on our Macs. JAMF and some other stuff.

Lots of random 99% CPU... intervals. Although that hasn't happened lately.

Anything involving tons of files (so, Node) takes like 2-4x as long as it does on a Mac that's not loaded down like this. It's painful.

Not sure how much of this is due to JAMF and how much of this is due to the other wonderful apps.

> It's just a management framework - Do developers who use windows say "getting sccm'd" or "getting Intuned" when SCCM/Intune does management actions on their devices?

Ubisoft Massive does have the phrase "got GPO'd" if that helps.

Yea this sounds like the IT department at his org just sucks!

Carbon black for us, kills our node development environments at random

My whole team has moved from 50/50 macs and linux to 100% linux to escape a recent jamf roll out.

It happened to us with Fleetsmith too, it was great then overnight everything stopped working, which incidentally was because apple acquired them. I like Jamf'd better though, it's going into the lexicon!

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