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JPMorgan employees describe 'fear of God' & 'panic' as office attendance tracked

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Personally this just isn't the hill I'd die on. We've seen decades of wage stagnation, reductions in benefits, the gutting of retirement plans, hours-worked manipulation and so on and the thing we collectively rise to defend is... remote/hybrid work?

I guess it might be because all the items in the list generally impact the poor and working class, while we bourgeoisie don't really face _those_ problems. So we tilt at windmills.

In some ways it’s very radical that people are trying to overturn such a fundamental part of being an adult as you have to go to work.

On the other hand the housing and transportation planning in this country are extremely dysfunctional. People live far from where they work and the commutes are brutal. I was hoping for a revolt against car-centric suburban planning orthodoxy, but I guess a revolt against ever having to go places also works.

I think we've seen the opposite of the desired impact. People are moving _out_ of dense urban neighborhoods to suburban and exurban enclaves as the primary motivator for living close-in (it reduces commute/offers public transit) is becoming a non-issue.

Yes that's what I mean: the transportation-sucks problem can be solved either by improving transportation or avoiding it. I would have preferred improvement, but getting a giant house in the exurbs and never leaving it also technically works.

But people still go places. All the time. Shopping, dinner, appointments, friends, gym etc and now a lot of _those_ activities are further away

Where are you going to go to dinner? Olive Garden? I think any reasonable version of this lifestyle involves being mostly self-sufficient at home. Especially in an Amazon Prime, UberEats, Peloton world. The stroads and strip malls that are the commercial centers and gathering places of exurbia are really unpleasant. People only go there because they have to. Increasingly they don't have to anymore.

I've not eaten at an Olive Garden in years. No idea where to live, but in the suburb I live in there are countless family-owned restaurants with cuisine from all corners of the world.

Btw, having Uber Eats bring you your food does fuck all for your emissions. In fact, it could increase them (depending on where the driver started at their destination afterwards).

The counterpoint here could be, "You've stagnated my wages, gutted my retirement plan, and reduced my benefits. I refuse to budge one inch more."

I mean working from the office is a huge pay decrease. You add 10 hours of commute + lunch/break time in an unpleasant environment. Easily 15 hours a week that can be better utilized that’s worth real money. For a jpm employee working 60+ hours that’s the difference between leasure time and just work/sleep

Nothing in the article suggests anything particularly novel or severe about this policy. What’s up with these panicky quotes

This is the result of years of coddling employees. Something as basic as tracking their attendance - a standard workplace Practice for generations - is now resulting in “panic.”

I know this sounds crazy but... you can quit your job and go work somewhere else. I can't imagine working with the "fear of god" or "panic" over stupid shit like this. just find a remote job elsewhere, fuck JPMorgan.

I can't imagine working with the "fear of god" or "panic" over stupid shit like this.

Then perhaps you can't quite imagine the I-banking lifestyle then. It is very much, if not fear-, then security-driven. Let's just say it attracts a certain personality profile.

That's why they make go across town to some doctor's office and pee in a cup before they let you in, for example.

If all workplaces will start enforcing rules like this (and they likely will), there would be no alternative to escape to.

I welcome them to do so quickly and aggressively.

That makes my talent search easier because as a fully remote company, we don’t waste time with silly concepts like “I have to see you in the flesh l to believe you’re working.” in information work.

yeah we're seeing a lot of quitters, churn, declined offers of hires due to the hybrid/in office positions. Causing a lot of chaos in projects I am on.

Personally, while I hate the extra workload, I do appreciate that wages are rising for the first time in my working lifetime in my industry. Even with the attendant inflation.

Is it just the extra digits you admire?

More digits lower wages people are dumb

Give the projects to me for double

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