> Do you believe people never received help before the government came along?

I do. Especially when people who need the help are from poor communities who can’t spare much - much less provide things like in home care, transportation, etc.

If you say gov doesn’t need to be involved then please show me who is gonna help. The only ones I know of are the same that throw queer kids or male domestic abuse victims out on the street. People are more charitable when they’re rich (or more accurately, on rising incomes), but they only help out people close to them. Poor people are dehumanized. That’s why we need the gov.

Or did you not like see the lines of cars 20 miles long during covid for food assistance?