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> wedge issues, which neither sub-entity will actually touch

Tell that to Citizens United and Roe vs. Wade.

Roe vs. Wade has not actually changed. Once it does, we can "circle back" and discuss the real world changes, which I suspect won't be anywhere near as widespread as we are led to believe. What has happened seems like an intentional distraction being played out; predictably enough, the results are exactly what would be expected; citizens provoked by fear of change rush to the town square to let "the other team" no this is "no bueno". But citizens in the street will always be comfortably ignored by those who purportedly represent them.

Will you take 2:1 odds? I'll send $10 to a charity of your choice if Roe isn't overturned by August, if you agree to send $20 to Planned Parenthood if Roe is overturned.

That's a reasonable bet, you're on. End of August deadline, my chosen charity would be the Green Beret Foundation (having nothing to do with the issue in question; I just believe that their work does direct good for those they serve).

I've set a calendar reminder and commit to this gentleman's agreement. Will provide proof in form of anonymized donation receipt screenshot should I lose.

Which were both notably decided by the courts rather than legislation or constitutional amendment.

Better for both parties to claim absolute helplessness over the short term, but also insist that absolute allegiance is required over the long term.

All that's about to happen is that a bunch of states that had one brave, beleaguered clinic will now have none. Getting abortions in those places was already hopelessly difficult, and Democrats had nothing to say about it other than declarations that while they were personally against abortion and thought it should be rare, they supported the court's decisions.

Now that line is going to change to them saying that they're personally against abortion and think it should be rare, but that the Supreme Court has been hopelessly "politicized" by the Republicans.

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