Ghost recon breakpoint game save disappeared

but it goes against their interests, more reasons to stay if all your data is there

There is/was whole market going on, people sold "exploits" for Geforce NOW, so people would play whatever they want.

You may as well plan your security mitigations in such a way that, ultimately, RCE is no more of a big deal than somebody being able to launch notepad.exe or chrome.exe to use a cloud gpu server as a remote desktop.

Now, that’s all to be said unless you’re dealing w somebody who has a GPU-/hypervisor sandbox escape exploit in addition to a RCE sploit they want to plant. In which case ya ur screwed. And I bet there’s serious effort spent by both eg NVIDIA and other cloud gaming providers, but, well, that’s a different beast than untrusted binary savegames

I don't follow. Why?

It'd say that Google is not serious about Stadia, long-term. Which was already known when they announced it for the first time, so not a lot of loss there.

This is very likely just a bug they'll fix soon though, at least I certainly hope so for the players' sakes.

I'm not involved in any of the ongoing and wouldn't comment on it. Came here to assert that this team is neither stupid nor callous.

Profit generating services at FAANG's pay good money for engineers to be woken up in the middle of the night to fix whatever problems might arise.

It's been over 24 hours.

There is a serious bug, and the backups aren't working as expected.

Hugs to the SRE's.

As a bit of a "privacy nut", I'm more careful about what I leave on other people's servers than most people I know, though, so I acknowledge I'm not anywhere near the median on this.

The most hacky but also potentially elegant approach would be to create/modify a game engine such that it can render 4 clients at a time onto the same viewport (i.e. 2x2 1080/720p). Just like the good old days with goldeneye64 multiplayer. With a setup like this, you could take advantage of cost sharing throughout.

Again, would have to build the game from zero to target this path. I think there could be some economic arguments to be made here. The software and creativity are the only real limitations.

The best part of JSON or keyed data is less profile conversions for one new key that shifts everything by a set position. Keys can be added and removed and you don't break the entire game save.

Binary blobs for game formats/saves/states is still a massive problem in gamedev. They have given many people a bad time when the profile conversion or state conversion fails and you end up with borked states. Almost impossible for that to happen with a keyed format like JSON. Getting studios to use it, especially early in dev to work with server/mobile dev was a massive challenge.

This seems similar to burning your photo album. There might have been an emotional attachment, and a significant non-financial investment, but how do you translate either of those into money? Eye for an eye, maybe?

They're asking "what is 600 hours of game time worth to the user?"

Because whatever it is to the users, it means a lot, more than the company could pay them.

The very existence of savegames proves you wrong.

Because losing a save can be an emotional event with feelings of loss higher than loss of physical goods depending on what was in it.

I'd expect even long heavily customizable RPGs to top out at 150 hours of actual feelings of lost progress, but that's still a considerable sum. I don't think courts would want to try valuing that though due to how such a precedent could be abused.

Right, I wasn't talking about legally enforceable damages. My point was about how valuable the data is to the user: If they offered $50 to the user, would the user feel satisfied? I doubt it after 600 hours of gameplay. $1,000? $10,000? The numbers are much too high for the company to pay - that's just a dramatization of one sense in which the data is irreplaceable.

As far as actual enforceability, if the agreement between the user and company includes a clause saying they company will preserve the user's data, or if there is a legal or technical requirement for the user to store their data with the company, maybe the user would have a claim. But I doubt there is much precedent for calculating damages.

There's nothing about any of this that looks like a ticking time bomb. Everything was fine until one day some part of the world around us unceremoniously disappeared, for no real ascertainable reason, in a way totally beyond most peoples control.

This is shit. Unqualifiedly just shit.

Good for you that you feel free & clear for casting off the past, but it's cavalier & mean to tell people they're better off that their hard work & things they've enjoyed have, for no real reason, self-destructed.

Medianis ephemeral, but art very often not so much. If someone decided to throw the works of Bach or Beethoven away we would have truly lost something for example.

Of course not everything is art to everybody, not everything has value to everybody but there are things truely worth of preserving — and often for other reasons than we ontuitively would think.

This bad boy right here!

However, I don't think it justifies the artificial loss that happens with renting software. There is no logical reason why would a program stop working on my computer if my computer has not changed. Software on my computer must not depend on any third-party-anything.

Of course, that computer will break one day, and the software will stop working on it eventually. But it will happen when it is natural to happen - not when some CEO decides to pull the plug.

There's a lot of issues with the switch - and Steam Deck is expensive, but maybe if it sells really well, other companies will make similar offerings and we might get some actual competition in "consoles" or handhelds that can play games up to about 6 years prior to the release of the console, perfectly.

I imagine with the shrinking of transistors and whatnot, someone could theoretically release an extremely low power version of, say, a 9800GT, or even a 1050ti in a couple of years - Rather than needing all this active cooling and heatpipes and a huge PCB to spread out the RAM and everything, just put the same IP onto a 5nm process or something and get the same performance in 1/10th of the wattage.

And keep in mind that when people say "owning a game" in this context it doesn't necessarily mean having the game in its original (physical) format, if you have a ROM of a gameboy game on your PC and play it via an emulator, in some ways you "own" the game more than if you had it as a physical copy because you can ensure the permanent preservation of both the game and its saves, unlike with the physical version.

It's this lack of control that keeps me gaming locally and saving games locally.

My save game backup strategy is mostly non-existent, I focus on just things I create like code or writing or pictures or videos. I've lost saves before through my own stupidity and I'll curse the gods for a few minutes and start a new character or whatever or decide it's a great time to try a new game. If some company decides my lost save is not worth retrieving or I get banned for who knows what reason or they just turn off the servers one day, that's when I'll feel the pain for a long time and curse them for a lot longer than I would curse the gods or myself.