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How is TC at Tesla, it it high enough to make these sort of statements digestable?

Nothing about Musk has ever been digestible, he's just removed the thin layer of veneer that wowed so much of SF/SV for the past couple decades.

Their stock price has so far been going up like a rocketship, and that is enough to make up for a lot of mismanagement and terrible work conditions. If the recent correction is sustained for an extended period then Elon will find that employees will no longer be willing to put up with all of this.

some people care about more than just money and actively like working on challenging problems that they feel are helping better the world. I'd say it's a good filtering mechanism so people who just want to max TC and work the minimum like so many at FAANG don't even bother to apply

average TC looks to be over 300K for devs with around 5 years experience, that's probably helped by how well their stock did the last few years

https://www.levels.fyi/company/Tesla/salaries/Software-Engin...

$300k and they still cannot add CarPlay/android Auto functionality?

It's clear at this point that they don't want to, and frankly, the car is better for it. UI is fantastic, I don't need Google's UI messing with it.

It’s kind of lame to not be able to make use of the huge catalog of apps that integrate with Android Auto and CarPlay. For example, I use a podcast app that’s on iOS and Android. It has worked seamlessly across multiple phones and cars for me, but it’s not on the Tesla. They’re making the same mistake every other automaker did of building their own boutique infotainment OS. Everyone else has figured out by now that supporting Android Auto/CarPlay is a good way of filling in all the gaps.

Use Bluetooth?

Sure Bluetooth will play the audio, but the app has a bunch of other controls: choosing an episode, skipping commercials, adjusting playback speed, etc. I’ve used that and it’s a big step backward to the 2000’s. I end up wanting to go on my phone while driving.

On the other hand, there was a bug in CarPlay that locked out part of the UI in the Music app in my car when the car was moving. To say that was beyond annoying is an understatement. (Who would use a car radio to play music?) It was a regression introduced during an iOS upgrade and it took Apple over a year to fix and was only patched when they rolled the major version.

If there was deep hardware-software-vehicle integration this would have never happened and would have been caught in testing. Unfortunately since CarPlay is developed in a disconnect from the display device, and insufficient testing is done due to the plethora of vehicles out there, bugs like this can and will happen.

Ironically, this is the antithesis of the common praise levied on Apple's "controlling both the hardware and software" approach.

The car is definitely worse off, especially outside the US.

I consider that a feature. Not supporting monopolies is a good thing.

If you're making 300k/year writing software you can drag your ass into the office as far as I'm concerned. If you compare that to similarly compensated occupations (doctors etc.) they don't get to play pretend-work from home. There is a definite imbalance in the value of professional occupations across industries.

People outside the SV tech bubble in traditional industries (manufacturing, medical devices) are making half that doing essentially the same job. If you want to work remotely full-time, fine, but you take a pay cut.

I know this comment is going to upset a lot of folks - and rightfully so - but this gravy train is going to end some day just like it did back in '00. Inertia is keeping things going at the moment.

> play pretend-work from home

1. If you hire people you can’t trust to do the work or if your company is so broken that people pretend-work, it’s not like warming up the seat in the office will change anything.

2. Let’s just forget about the last two years where most were remote and companies kept making record profits. Clearly, spending hours a day sitting in a polluting car to all gather in a room is a good use of everyone’s time and resources.

It's not a matter of trust so much as it is human nature. Even good employees are more likely to slack off given the temptation of essentially unsupervised work.

Another way to look at it is not that the employees are remote, but that the manager is phoning it in. It's hard to be a dynamic leader through a Zoom window.

Then measure results instead of butt in seat time?

> Even good employees are more likely to slack off given the temptation of essentially unsupervised work.

You have not worked on a team of self motivated high performers if this is your mental model.

Or they are a terrible (micro) manager who measures performance by how much ‘busy work’ people are doing.

Or with a good manager if they think work from home means "essentially unsupervised"

I would never work for a person who puts their poor image of humans first in our relationship vs observing my output and process and then deciding what kind of person I am. It sounds like you are a lazy slacker and expect others to be lazy slackers too. The second I smell such a suspicious attitude I run away. You would lose good people and thus should never set foot into managing anything but a locksmith SEO mafia, which will produce employees who perform to your low expectations.

It seems you don’t know what software engineering entails, so maybe don’t comment?

It’s all digestible if you drink enough kool-aid

TC... TechCrunch?

Total Compensation (salary + bonus + equity or whatever the Tesla equivalent is).

Thank you!

Sometimes also abbreviated as TCV (Total Compensation Value) in case you run into that in the future.

Total Compensation

Total Compensation - salary plus bonus plus options / stock

Edit: lol

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