Finally, push notifications in iOS coming in... oh, 2023.
> "look for Web Push for iOS and iPadOS in 2023."
> "look for Web Push for iOS and iPadOS in 2023."
…OK, that’s too dismissive. I do know that certain web apps and sites have legitimate uses for push notifications.
But I encounter these far, far more often on news sites, where I profoundly do not want notifications, ever.
Probably too convoluted of a “power user” setting for Apple to consider, but I would rather have a very strict opt-in whitelist where I proactively enter sites where I actually do want notifications.
That being said, I definitely hope it's off by default
(Although to be honest, apart from push notifications, which are still vapourware right now, we've been able to replace almost everything native apps do with web apps for a while now. I'll be super curious to see how stuff like Rust and WASM go using some of these newly announced features...)
The web is in a really funny place right now. It's easier to synthesize audio to read your blogpost to the user in whatever dialect you want than it is to style a number input consistently across browsers
Isn't this how it works in Firefox/Chrome right now? I routinely get prompts from websites asking for push notification permission, which I always deny. Can't imagine Safari not doing the same thing.
No Signal, I do _not_ want to enable push notification on this iPad. Still. Just like every other time you asked me.
I'd rather go to the website, enable notifications, and never install any app.
I believe Firefox doesn't show the prompt at the top at all anymore nowadays and just has a glowing notification bubble in the address bar, but it's been a while.
They absolutely do.
Anyway, I look forward to every shitty site asking for permission to send notifications adding to the trillions of requests a year...
The whole thing's a mis-feature. If it must exist at all, sites shouldn't be able to prompt for it, but simply advertise the functionality and let browsers add a little button or something for the user to actively engage with if they want to see a permissions prompt. Like the way browsers used to handle sites that advertised RSS feeds.
Looks like there will be some interaction required to prompt it.
That being said, hoping there's a browser-level option to just turn it off.
Is that user flow described actually a requirement somehow, or is that just an "ideal scenario"? Cause right after that it says "If you’ve already implemented Web Push for your web app or website using industry best practices, it will automatically work in Safari" and existing implementations don't require a button press that they used in their example. Facebook just pops up the browser prompts to allow or block as soon as you visit the page, as do many news sites and other stuff I don't want notifications from.
Maybe the "using industry best practices" part is key, and they somehow will block implementations like Facebook.
Meh, you'll just get full screen modals begging you to push the button. So long as a feature which (ostensibly) drives engagement exists, every ad based website is going to do whatever they can to get you to use it.
There are some really good use cases for it, but I think the balance is tipped by the far too many bad (for the user) use cases.
> Notification prompts are very unpopular. On Release, about 99% of notification prompts go unaccepted, with 48% being actively denied by the user.
So 99%+ are spam and the rest are probably users who accidentally hit accept.
I have to imagine many people are in the same boat.
But engagement is up 3%!