Shortsightedness has become an epidemic
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My hypothesis is that less sunlight means wider pupils and more defocus (contrast to a pinhole camera), so more eye growth.
Even with perfect eyesight, there's a 2-diopter difference between focussing blue light and red light due to chromatic aberration. Only narrow pupils can reduce this blur in white light.
I'm also curious whether older TVs with big blurry pixels (or low res images upscaled and smeared onto newer screens) trigger the same mechanism. These days I certainly feel physically uncomfortable looking at media like that, like my eyes aren't focussing quite right.
The other problem is that once eyes have grown too long and are myopic (near-sighted) they experience even more defocus and grow more. See for example [1] which discusses how under-correction of myopia accelerates progression.
[1] https://reviewofmm.com/does-the-undercorrection-of-myopia-in...
I have very similiar values than my mother.
So i'mnot sure if / how your theory is correct or not.
Also there are a lot of normal people in the world who live outside and also don't have perfect eye sight at all. This goes back a long time.
Can you also elaborate on your 2 diopter difference between red and blue light? For one i find that number very very big but i'm very good in seeing full color without any chromatic aberration.
The effect of your theory would need to be less relevant than other factors.
Re: the chromatic aberration spread, see e.g. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/3716229/
They measured 1.82 diopters between 420nm and 660nm. Visible light is a bit wider, 380nm to 720nm, so 2 diopters is about right.
You easily can see this in a dark data centre. If your vision is perfectly corrected (which normally means perfect for red-green light) you won't be able to focus on a blue LED unless you are about 50cm away.
This is also why writing a word in pure blue neon lights is really dumb. Adding just a little bit of green to it helps readability immensely.
> I have very simil[a]r values than my mother.
Well, everything is genetic. The amount of sunlight you're exposed to is no less a genetic effect than how tall you grow to be. Without genes, you wouldn't have any behaviors or phenotypes at all.
So the interesting question is not "is this phenomenon genetic?", because the answer to that is always "yes". The interesting question is "what can influence this phenomenon?". In this case, we already know that (1) within a given culture, genetics are a strong predictor for myopia; and (2) once you do a cross-cultural comparison, the effect of culture absolutely overwhelms genetic measurements. Most people who become nearsighted in modern cultures would never become nearsighted in premodern cultures.
That depends on the thing. Whether you grow five or six fingers on your hands is determined by your genes without much reference to anything else. Whether you reach a "natural" height or develop stunted by malnutrition is also determined by your genes. It is more responsive to environmental conditions than the number of fingers on your hand is - but that responsiveness is determined by your genes.
They went outside often but nothing extreme. We have big luminous windows. And they spend a fair amount of time on screens too.
It can be so multifactorial, I have no idea why this luck. As I was convinced they would all wear glasses.
I am able to differentiate a bald eagle from an osprey at two miles based on the shape of the wings
I wonder how you judge the distances? I'm a helicopter pilot and I don't even bother looking for traffic farther than 2 miles out unless it's an airliner. I have radar telling me how far away they are so I know the distances are accurate.I also know about how large the various adult birds appear at various distances, recognizing that there is some variability. If it really mattered, I could carry a range finder.
Navigating in the open ocean, with no landmarks, is a little different. I have two compasses: one on my deck and one in my life jacket with my marine radio. I keep a charged phone with GPS and local marine charts in a dry box in a dry bag in a dry hatch in my boat, but have yet to rely on it. I look up the velocity and direction of the predicted currents and keep a chart of that on the deck along with my navigational chart. I plot my course on the chart and note the headings to my next waypoint. I keep a duplicate of the predicted currents and headings in a waterproof notebook on my body in case the chart gets separated from my boat. I note my departure time and calculate my velocity based on my normal cruising speed, adjust that for conditions – wind, current, company – and go for it.
I practice this on my local waters because I've been enveloped by fog off the coast of Maine. In September 2019 at low tide in the morning, three of us in a line with about twelve inches between stern and bow, we were unable to see the other paddlers in their cockpits, which means visibility was no more than seventeen feet. We navigated by instruments, ocean swell, and wind direction for two hours before the fog burned off.
You can also use prismatic lenses as the induced prism probably won't be sufficient (but better than nothing), but my local shop does not make them, so I have no experience with this.
I am shortsighted and I have special glasses for computer/close work (reading, soldering), which are 1.5D weaker and the IPD is 10mm larger (as these are concave lenses, it's the opposite IPD manipulation than with convex). The induced prism for my glasses is about 2Δ.
I don't understand why this is not more popular, both among shortsighted (to have weaker glasses to use indoors) and healthy (to have "reading glasses"). Including the prism. Beware, that some doctors say that by using such "perfect" correction for e.g. your computer screen, your eyes will "get lazy". I don't think this is true, but YMMV.
Protip: there are online services that will just make you glasses, no questions asked, usually for $20 to $40 for basic glasses. Here in .cz we have optiscont, globally, there is zennioptical; you can also search aliexpress. I don't have any apparatus to measure the quality of the resulting lenses, they however seem "good enough".
I too use eInk whenever possible but that's just for reading (a passion of mine). All current computer monitors are LED AFAIK, is there any research tho that it's better for sight, or are you simply stating that you migrated as the technology changed?
I'm thinking that OLEDs are the best looking but one of their weaknesses often mentioned is that they aren't as bright; if you have lots of light (ideally natural sunlight) they may prove to be counterproductive if you have to strain to see due to appearing dim.
Exhaustion definitely changes my eyesight. I'm coming off of two days of kayaking and camping with high school kids followed by an intensive four hour lesson teaching rescues. (Imagine ~3600 boat-poses per hour, then subtract a few hundred and replace them with pulling swamped boats out of the water and across my lap to empty them, climbing out of the water and into the boat to demonstrate a dozen types of self-rescue.) I tried to read last night but my eyes could not focus; I vaguely remember making my way toward bed but woke up twelve hours later downstairs on the floor.
there is the Dasung E-ink 23" monitor
My fantasy setup: waterproof 13"-15" e-ink linux device with 16GB of RAM and mobile connectivity and a Twiddler X Lendal collab on a 210cm Cadence. A rollup waterproof full-size bluetooth keyboard would be adequate. The keyboard and e-ink device would both need tether points and/or internal flotation.
This lead me on an interesting deep dive into existing research. What surprised me were the massive gaps in understanding. Scientist have at best established correlation between close up work and nearsightedness, and a negative correlation with spending time outside. The actual mechanism in play is unknown, for example the theories about sunlight are still untested. The specific types of close up work that cause issues is unknown. Some scientists have proposed that it's the contrast between white pages and black text that actually causes issues with reading.
My conclusion was that anyone who confidently asserts that $x causes nearsightedness is wrong (this thread is a case in point).
Cynically, I feel like there is a lot of money being made just by treating eye disorders the same way its been done for decades. For example, right now, the main treatment I use for glaucoma is eye drops, which is the same treatment given to my grandmother when she was diagnosed in the 1960s. And those drops are not covered by insurance, rather expensive, and I have to take them every day forever, along with twice a year eye exams and visual field tests.
For now I've decided to take the expensive brand-name drops, and we're monitoring to see if my condition progresses or not. After a couple years of this I might switch.
This seems to work for us. Don't know about anyone else. I'm very nearsighted (-14 diopters), but I grew up reading books on paper.
Practically: use weaker (around 1.5 diopters) or no glasses during close-up work (reading, computer work, smartphones) and your regular or .25D weaker glasses for distance vision. Always use your full strength glasses for driving and safety critical activities.
You can expect around a .75D decrease in myopia per year. Personally, I started with around -5.5D and am now (1.5 years later) at -2.5D.
Obviously I didn't come up with this myself, there's a huge group over at https://endmyopia.org
Don't get put off by the sarcastic tone of the website. Look into the studies regarding axial length, pseudomyopia and lens induced myopia if you'd like. You can find plenty of studies linked as well as the practical steps on endmyopia. Note: You don't have to buy the guy's courses, just read his blog and free email guide.
Apart from that I'm positive you could make improvements. You'd need to continuously measure your eyesight and adjust your glasses accordingly, otherwise you might undo your improvements by being overcorrected.
All I can find on that (frankly quite awful) site are ways to sign up to a course by email, lots of podcast episodes, testimonials for people that improved their eyesight, and endless photos of what I assume is the site's creator. The "Guides" page doesn't actually have any guides, just more of the same.
From what I can tell, the guy really wants to sell you a course, but at the same time, they are all "sold out".
This is what optometrists in Asia do, except in the West there is always a cultural tendency to "overprescribe"
I'm pretty sure it's because I got interested in computers, and started spending all day staring 3ft ahead instead of glancing around outdoors.
Some friends in my computer science program passed around each other's glasses and found we all had nearly the same prescription. That didn't seem like a coincidence.
But really it's presbyopia that's bothered me. I'm glad my distance vision is great, but the loss of close-up focus is massively inconvenient. Reading glasses make me want to throw up within a matter of minutes. Not sure what my long term plan is aside from suffer.
Maybe that's because I didn't always have a computer nearby and had to spend time outside too as a kid.
Honestly I'm glad that I am now that I'm in my 40s. Without glasses or contacts, I can read something right up against my nose. Makes it so much easier to work on electronics and other small items - I just take my glasses off and I see up close perfectly well.
To be noted, I'm French, English is not my native language so when I realized my mistake I thought that was because in the case of this title it was obvious that it is about eyes but I just didn't knew how to catch the clues.
Homophones are a pain for us bad spellers.
But with modern DNA sequencing techniques researches has found genes that seem to affect both[3][4].
The hypothesis is that one (or a set of) genes affects both eye size growth (myopia is often caused by the eye being "too long") and neocortical size (associated with intelligence).
Although this probably won't surprise anyone in this research field, I recently read about it -- with my non-nearsighted eyes :) -- and found it interesting. So I wanted to share, since it's somewhat related to this topic.
[1] https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamaophthalmology/article-a...
[2] https://europepmc.org/article/med/2904062
I don’t think other studies on myopia fit this same narrative. (However I may be wrong!)
Their summary seems to suggest that the biggest factor is exposure to daylight. So then even reading outside ought theoretically protect against nearsightedness.
That sounds like a fair bit of support to me.
Full flood wash on a stage is nothing compared to the power of the sun.
But that doesn't make it less interesting of a fact.
The hypothesis in TFA is much more likely (regular exposure to bright daylight in children)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect
(Though because IQ is standardized around a mean of 100, it's probably more accurate to say that the IQ of people in the past has retroactively gotten lower)
Your link even covers it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect#Possible_end_of_p...
Funny, this was also documented in sanskrit medical texts
Your eye is a muscle, focusing only at close range keeps the range of motion tight. Just like your back and neck might get stiff sitting all day.
Sunlight means smaller pupil, wider depth of field, just like a camera.
(My speculation) More light gives you brain more information to clean up or upscale a blurry image. This effect even seems to last when you leave sunlight, for awhile. It's like I fine tuned my neurons to prioritize blur reduction, and it takes awhile for them to fall back into normal processing. If this is true, my guess is that I might be trading off contrast or color details for sharpness.
[1] https://www.aoa.org/healthy-eyes/eye-and-vision-conditions/c...
I used to think the same thing when I just tried not wearing glasses for a while. I could swear that it was awful at first but over time my no-glases eyesight improved tremendously. I then did a really simple distance reading test and it was obvious that it didn't improve at all and the effect was imagined.
I'm always baffled by the dismissive wave of the "activity level causes obesity and heart disease" trope--because it's mostly wrong. The first world diet is the primary cause of obesity and heart disease, and it's well-proven. Starch and sugar, processed foods, a diet primarily consisting of carbohydrates. Diet is the driver, not activity level.
And, at least where I live, kindergartens have the children playing outside most of the time, summer and winter, rain or shine.
My impression is that short-sightedness is in fact rarer in Norway than in the UK but it's not something I actually have statistics for.
I fear that it might be changing now as so many children, boys in particular, spend so much time using computers.
In the UK we don't get a lot of sunlight in the winter months. It would be nice to know that we can turn on a "sun lamp" or whatever for homework time to help alleviate the issues.
Thus, are more people nearsighted in UK than in the South of France?
Since the pandemic and work-from-home, I've been working in a home office where an entire wall is a glass door leading to the balcony, floor to ceiling. I let the light stream in, and it's basically daylight inside. I had to get a brighter monitor (600 nit OLED), but now I just can't picture myself going back to work in a gloomy cubicle farm. The grey, dim light would just depress me.
There's a few hobbyists using large LED or OLED panels to achieve the same kind of lighting effect as overhead sunlight. Because of the higher efficiency, it's now possible to do this without an extravagant power bill or excessive heat. This makes the most sense is in places closer to the arctic, where winters are long, dark, and cold. So in effect, the "wasted" heat energy of the lighting simply contributes to heating the workplace or home.
Here on YC News more than a few people have suggested that this might be a nice startup to work on: "indoor sunlight" products and installation services can start small, but can scale up! You can also imagine combo products, such as solar-power + batteries + bright lighting panels.
I was much happier when I could snag a space with a window once in awhile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bqBsHSwPgw
Also there was a breakthrough a while ago with LED ceiling lights that mimic natural sun. I haven't heard much since their release, so I'm sure cost is still a major issue for these sadly.
https://www.zmescience.com/science/physics/artificial-light-...
Me, I’ll climb the floors of the office and stand in a windowed stairwell with the sun in my eyes for ten minutes after lunch every day, when the weather’s good, but that’s being kind of anal about it.
Unfortunately me and my partner both have our families here so moving is not an option. Being able to see decently strong light in December without having to travel would be worth a lot to me.
Long answer, you'll need to really jack up the power consumption. Replicating a thing that in itself an energy source needs waaaay more than just a 60W light bulb.
Do people really still use old “light bulbs”?
Not really, daylight is not 10 times but much more brighter than a 100w incandescent lamp, such illumination (e.g. it has certain uses to help seasonal depression) exists but it's very bright compared to normal indoors lighting.
The old 100w lamps were ~1600 lumens; outdoors daylight is something like 10k lumens/square meter in shade (direct sunlight would be another order of magnitude more), and an appropriate number for the surfaces of a small room would be in the ballpark of 100 of such LEDs so 600w of electricity.
LEDs are a terrible technology for lighting.
These days apart from the workout in the morning I get no outdoor activity, its just staring at every decreasing(sizes of) screens. I'm showing early symptoms of Shortsightedness. Several other colleagues tell me the same, there's also additional problem of people getting obese staying at home.
Though schools have opened. Last two years were equally worse for kids, no play, classes on smartphones and laptops.
Humans have not evolved to live like this.
ELI5: In opticals, “rays” coming from a near object (=mobile phone) are angled, while rays coming from afar (=end of a landscape) are parallel. The job of pupils is to bend the rays from the focal point ahead to the focal point on the receptors in the eye. The eye is a rest when looking afar, because rays come parallel, and thus there isn’t much to do. The eye is strained when trying to focus one something closer.
I’ve always wondered why we all had that UV filter on screens and never took care of making the rays from the computer screen parallel, using a lense.
There's calculators on his site also for astigmatism. I think also a list of optometrists who will understand if you want weaker lenses.
I also found an older myopia submission where a comment links several related sites.[1] frauenfeldclinic.com now redirects to endmyopia.org; archive.org confirms that the old domain was the same site, but oddly the new domain has an exclusion applied. As one reply noted, myopia.org really is an excellent display of the Time Cube design language.[2]
I've been using one less diopter correction for a while most of the time, with an additional pair of glasses with the full prescription for driving. Not sure if it does anything or my nearsightedness just naturally stopped progressing though, but since it's working and not bothering me I have no interest in finding out.
- You can't really have two lenses cemented together. That'll correct for chromatic aberration but, other than that, the lenses would behave as one (except for deviations from thin lens approx.)
- You can't have glasses mounting two lenses "d" apart for two reasons. 1) Having parallel lenses would terribly uncomfortable, heavy, and awkward 2) More importantly your eye and the two lenses would never be aligned (as soon as you move your focus away from the one spot the glasses were aligned for, the optical system performance would collapse)
- The best you could do, then, is contact lenses + eyeglasses. But then you have all the bother of wearing glasses and eyeglasses. Also, it's not obvious to me it would work since the contact lenses are in contact with your cornea, the pair behaving like a single lens.
Edit: GP might also be talking about eyeglasses with adjustable focus, which apparently are already available. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adjustable-focus_eyeglasses
I would actually call it pandemic because it is affecting all developed countries because majority of their workforce works indoor and then goes home or to the gym....again indoor environment.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8179197/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5233810/
https://www.revieweducationgroup.com/ce/how-environment-and-...
"Some of the loci identified include those involved in dopamine and light processing. These genetic findings provide further support for mechanisms of myopia development involving light exposure, defocus and contrast.
Despite these important findings informing potential genetic locations and mechanisms of myopia development, these studies have identified less than 5% of the variation in refractive error due to genetic variants.42 Clearly, the dramatic rise in myopia cannot be due to genetics alone, but is likely due to a combination of both genetic susceptibility and increased environmental triggers."
Did the Economist show you a different article with the same title due to your location?
This is of course anecdotal, but I'm 45 and still don't need glasses.
I'm trying to do the same with my kids, but sometimes it's just too easy to hand them an iPad when I want to get something done....
This is of course anecdotal, but I have needed glasses since before fifth grade.
(I got my first pair of glasses in fifth grade, but in retrospect it was clear that I needed them much earlier. I can still vividly remember the first I ever tried on my new glasses and being astounded at the level of visual detail that existed in the world. Stars! Leaves on trees! Wow! I had no idea.)
But, I read a lot, often in bed at close distance, and I was astigmatic and near-sighted when I was young. Now, I'm mostly just astigmatic and presbyoptic.
Most people become more farsighted as they age. Typically it starts when you are around 40 and changes rapidly for the next decade. After that it tends to settle down.
More importantly, the lenses in your eyes become more rigid, losing their ability to focus at different distances.
When I was younger, one eye was a bit nearsighted and the other a bit farsighted. This allowed me to get away without glasses longer than I should have. Even if I wasn't seeing clearly with both eyes, I could see at most distances with one eye.
As my eyes' focus distance lengthened, my nearsighted eye attained close to normal vision, and my farsighted eye was focused past infinity. Not good.
When I got my first pair of prescription single vision computer glasses, it was life-changing. Now I could see my laptop screen perfectly. I told my optometrist I wanted something like single vision reading glasses, but adjusted for the distance to my laptop screen, about 20", unlike the typical 16" focus distance of a reading prescription.
In fact, this started to make me fussy about using high-DPI displays (~200 DPI) instead of the low-DPI displays (~100 DPI) I'd previously used. On a low-DPI display I could see the pixels!
It does mean that when I use external monitors with the laptop, I need to have them also at this 20" distance. So to augment the laptop screen, I have a 24" 4K monitor in landscape mode immediately above it, and a second 24" 4K monitor in portrait mode to the left.
Both of the external monitors are at about the same 20" distance from my eyes, and each of the three displays is angled differently so the center of the monitor is aligned with my vision: the laptop display at a typical laptop angle, the one above it closer to vertical (but still tilted a bit), and the one on the left at an in-between angle. The bottom of this monitor is about a half inch above my desk, just enough room to let cables run under it.
This is a fairly glorious setup. All three displays are in focus for me, and the portrait display is great for reading documentation, especially PDF files that are so awkward on a landscape display.
The key to this is the single vision glasses. I have seen so many people try to use progressive lenses with their computers, and they are always craning their neck back so they can see through the lower part of the lens that has a closer focus distance. Single vision lenses let everything be in focus at once, especially with the portrait mode monitor.
Another key is that the computer glasses should have a fairly tall profile, not the truncated rectangular lenses that are so popular. This greatly improves the field of view.
On my last visit to the optometrist they suggested lenses with a blue light filter. I said no thanks on that. Sometimes I do photo editing, and the blue light filter shifts everything to a warmer color. The way I solve the problem of too much blue light is that I simply don't turn my monitor brightness up so high. It is set so a white background is about the same brightness as a piece of white paper in the same lighting.
I also have progressive glasses that I use for everything else when I'm not at the computer. These have magnetic clip-on sunglasses, which are pretty great. Indoors I can leave the sunglasses off and just use the progressives on their own. Because I wear aloha shirts with a pocket, I can keep the sunglass lenses in my pocket and I hardly know they are there. When I step outside or go driving, I just snap on the magnetic clip-ons and I'm good to go.
The frames with magnetic clip-ons are a bit uncommon these days, but they are well worth finding.
If anyone is curious I can look up the brand and exact model number for both the round single vision and the progressives I'm using.
So yeah. I am sure prolonged focusing contributes a lot but not sure it's the main cause.
https://www.revieweducationgroup.com/ce/how-environment-and-...
I became nearsighted not long after getting a home computer, for similar reasons. My father, an avid farmer and naturist, is farsighted. It seems pretty obvious your eyes adjust to whatever you spend all day looking at.
That all said, is it bad? Mine was cured with a rather cheap PRK procedure...and I sure wouldn't give up all I've learned for perfect natural eyesight.
I’ve been using computers since I was 4 years old, starting with a Commodore PET.
I’m longsighted, so what do I draw from that?
Only that we should use stats properly lest we become superstitious.
35 years on, and my eyesight somehow still remains fine - I'm slightly short sighted in one eye, slightly long sighted in the other (how does that even happen?!), but opticians always say I don't need glasses.
I think you're right - there are simply way too many factors to control for, and statistics is the way.
Hindsight is 20/20.
My brother and I were kids with mostly similar habits. We spent a lot playing outside, but he loved reading his Goosebump books, while I mainly watched TV at a distance. He needed glasses as a kid, and I didn't until we got a computer in my teen years. It completely feels like it's a focusing distance issue.
Glasses are also inconvenient, cost money, can be lost or broken, and don't cover the entire field of vision, and contacts have their own problems.
Surprised to see it was actually by eyesight
It's a metaphor. Eyes evolved to process much more intricate light fields than we typically get in our homes/schools/offices. That has an effect?
"Governments are well placed to solve such collective-action problems..."
An optometrist or optician will have you sit with your head in the phoropter asking "better/worse" while flipping lenses - pretty much a binary search type of approach. But this is often done hastily and results in inaccurate prescriptions.
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Unfortunately, inaccurate scripts are often inflicted upon children which as I will describe later, compounds into worsening vision over time, with the opticians/optometrists prescribing higher and higher power lenses that are only solving an issue that is created by the previous history of inaccuracy! Telltale signs of inaccurate scripts include:
- minor corrections
Eyes are not static objects and vision actually does vary from month to month, day to day, lighting conditions, blood pressure, etc. If a correction is minor, it's almost always unecessary and harmful.
- slightly different prescriptions for left (OS) and right (OR) eyes.
99.9% of folks have equivalent vision in both eyes. Like I said above, if a difference is minor, a correction would almost always be harmful.
- minor cylinder corrections (astigmatism.)
Astigmatism is extremely rare and when it does occur it's almost never minor. These corrections are especially egregious as they cause distortion compensation.
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So why do eye professionals commit these cardinal acts of eye destruction upon their patients? Well we already discussed hastyness but that is clearly a vice that is going to result in bad outcomes in any profession.
What else? Well, eye professionals are taught to seek out as perfectly sharp an image as possible, and then back off the power a bit to reduce the possibility of eyestrain, headache, and dizziness. Some professionals don't even back off the power though..
In order to accomplish this task of perfect sharp vision, they add all of these minor corrections. When these ill-fitting lenses are worn for months on end, the body has a somatic response. The eyeballs elongate, which pushes the focal plane back, causing further myopia. [1]
The patient goes back to the eye doctor and now receives an even more incorrect script based on the transient state their eyes are in, induced by a cascading patterned history of harmful scripts.
In the worst case, the eye doctor recommends laser eye surgery which shaves the corneal lens of your eye into an artificial lens. Essentially, they carve your current harmful prescription straight into your eyeball. And then guess what happens? The eyeball shortens and often, the patients vision becomes progressively worse again. It can take months, but it does happen. [2] And now the fix that they recommend? More laser eye surgery. It's barbaric.
So please, do not get eye surgery before trying what I recommend below. Surgery on the cornea is advertised as non invasive but it can cause life long issues such as chronic dry eye. Please try to assess whether your vision is actually bad, or just a transient state due to a long history of bad prescriptions and poor habits.
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How do you break the cycle and restore your vision?
1) First, look at your current script. How asymmetric is it? How small are the cylinder values, if any?
Lower the scripts power and make the prescription symmetric. Remove the minor cylinder values. So for example, if you had -3.6 and -3.4 with some small astigmatism corrections, just ask for a script for -3.4 SPH in both eyes.
2) Make sure the pupillary distance is correct - eye professionals are notorious for fucking this up because the PD needs be to custom set for the frame the lenses will be going in, otherwise you'll have lenses with a focal center that is not aligned with the center of your eyeball. This causes distortion and uneven focus, causing eye strain and worsening vision.
3) Aspheric lenses - buy good lenses like Seiko double aspherics - just like cinema or photo lenses cost a lot of money because they reduce abberation and edge distortion, your eyes benefit from the same technology. Bottom dollar spherical lenses are okay, but strain is not healthy for eyes, and a good $300 set of Seiko transition lenses with coatings can last 10+ years. It's worth your eye health.
4) Have multiple pairs of spectacles. Use the weakest usable one (or no specs) depending on the task you are doing. For instance, I'm on my phone in bed, so I am not using any glasses. This will improve your vision over time. You can slowly reduce the power of your scripts if you care about it. I went from -4.75 to -3.5 and I'm happy with what I'm at, so I don't spend any effort trying to lower any further. But if you have the money, the time, and the will, you can get to -1.X territory through judicious use of a set of activity appropriate lenses.
Lastly, buy your own frame, buy your own pupilary distance tools, buy your own trial lens kit and trial frame like the Oculus UB6. Take time and figure out the right prescription for yourself without it being rushed. Test it and have it remade if the center of focus of the lenses is not at the center of your eyes. PD is integral!
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An eye professional who cares and understands these things CAN help and even properly measure these values but they are rare. Sometimes if you want something done right, you kind of have to do it yourself. Or at the very least, guide or give your demands. After all, you are the paying customer.
Hope this helps others break the cycle of worsening vision. If anyone has any question, feel free to reach out.
[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK470669/
[2] https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/news/20030410/some-patients...
I had the exact same reaction, and was genuinely surprised when I clicked through.
This sunlight thing makes a lot of sense though. I kept hearing proposals during the pandemic about holding classes outside if the weather allowed for it. Might not be such a terrible idea in climates where it’s suitable.
They confirmed it wasn't that I was reading only with my right eye, and it's obviously not like my eyes got different amounts of sunlight, given that they go everywhere together, so I've always been suspicious that that was a lazy answer.
I got glasses before kindergarten, and I needed them for longer than that.
Later on, I did end up spending a lot of time in childhood reading, but I was myopic before I could read.
‘Explanations’ like ‘you read too much’ have always struck me as obvious nonsense in my case.
The basic Kindle model is grey and can be comfortably read in sunlight, and yet somehow people are convinced that the "PaperWhite" model is better...
Maybe it is that if pupils are outside they focus far away when looking up, rather than sun light?
But apparently there is an issue where mothers with low vitamin D in Scandinavia (especially immigrants from sunnier places) are more likely to have autistic children.
I'd love to know if some sort of focus training exercises for eyes starting as children would help everyone.
I very much doubt kids 'studying too much' is the problem - staring at iphones all day watching tiktok and playing video games is more like it.
The reality is near-sightedness is a massive problem in countries with insane childhood studying hours, eg all across east Asia.
Civilizational myopia is not a new phenomenon. It is much older than iphones or video games.
Also, getting used to all sorts of weather improves the immune system. By spending too much time indoors we are becoming glasshouse flowers.
Guess it’s a bit hard to combine with a baby <6 months, but eventually they should both fit.
Under the age of about 1 to 1.5 then you get to call the shots of what happens when. Walk as mu h as you like.
After that age, the kids start to get their own opinions and won't always just do what you want them to do. You may want to go for a long walk, but the kid wants to do something else. They'll spend 95% of the time trying to escape the buggy/stroller or trying to run off or just sit on the floor if they're walking.
At that age we've found that it is best to not have any plans for things you need to do - e.g. don't plan to "walk to the store", because it might take you 25 minutes to go about 200 meters because you need to stop to look at a traffic light or a store front or a car that is red or whatever - i.e. you'll never get to the store without a fight. That said, they usually love the playground though so swings and slides and stuff can replace being a docile lump that you cart around.
What you do is normal at that age. If you walk to store frequently it is normal routine and lead to fights only occasionally. And while kid stops to look at boring things, it is not like they would stop for hours, most of time you nudge them after few seconds and they go.
It is slower then adult speed, but not that impossibly slow.
Unfortunately I didn't do nearly as much of this kind of walk with his little brother, because it's not safe if your attention is divided between multiple kids.
https://bancosparenting.wordpress.com/2018/05/24/freedom-wit...
However beyond that IMHO frankly it's critical safety imperative that children do what their parents tell them when it matters. If you're in the street near traffic a child disregarding parental instructions is a life and death issue. There are other safety critical situations too. This is why I feel it's vital that children and parents have a relationship of trust and respect, in both directions, that allows for that. It's not easy, I know.
You can absolutely get a kid excited about a long walk. It sounds like in your case your kid was enjoying it more than you were ;)
Efficiency vs anti-fragility. Pick one, but not both.
I thought it would have been to do with the consumption of starches and carbs https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2003/sep/21/shoppin...
If you wear UV protective glasses most of the time you can almost elimate cataracts.
The UV index here in southern Australia tends to be high to extreme most days during the warmer months, so I tend to wear UV protective sun glasses anytime I'm outside.
That said, there is emerging research that the lack of NIR light is very detrimental to all kinds of health conditions[0].
Over the past two years, I've moved to ensuring that I get plenty of indirect sunlight. As NIR can go through most clothing and foliage produced shade, it's quite pleasant and relaxing to spend time in it.
I also have large concerns with the move to thermal insulation efficiency that we now have. Indoor Air and quite easily become stagnant due to lack of outdoor exchange and the the low-emissivity glass used in high end windows block most NIR. Couple that with a lack of NIR emitters (incandescent is gone, camp fires are gone), and I think we are in for a world of hurt, even more so than today.
Indoor Air quality can be mostly solved with use of ERVs to cycle the air with minimal energy loss.
I'm not sure how you solve for low-emissivity glass other than not using it and designing your structure to limit direct sunlight exposure for the window itself and use shade/curtains/blinds for thermal control when needed.
I thought it was obvious that short-sightedness (Exclusively Short term thinking) is an epidemic, nobody on Wall Street can see past the next Quarter's numbers. I don't need the economist to point that out.
Nearsightedness is what this article is about... a completely different thing. I've dealt with that my entire life... and just went through the knock-on effect of retina detachment, and surgery to correct the same. Having a bubble of C3F8 gas in your one good eye is pretty damned effective at taking you out of commission for about 4 months. Looking down hurts! I hope to be up and about, and able to drive again by the start of September, once the bubble has gone, my eye has stabilized, the surgeon has made a final check, and finally after I get new glasses.
I strongly suspect the amount of light outdoors is NOT really the issue. If you're always focused on things close at hand (as the above mentioned folks on wall street), you never allow the eyes to focus on the far horizon for an appreciable fraction of the time.
I'm surprised to learn that there's no consensus on how the eye actually focuses on objects at various distances[1]. It is also well know that the smaller an iris in a camera (or eye), the larger the range of distances that appear in focus. It seems reasonable to me that if you spend your time looking at only nearby objects (like above mentioned Wall Street residents), you'll lose the ability to see things further out that might be coming to get you.
Then you need to read more on the matter.
Studies on chicks, tree shrews and rhesus monkeys show that simply increasing the amount of indoor light intensity has a protective effect on myopia. Scientists can induce more myopia in chicks simply by reducing light intensity. See https://iovs.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2164963 and https://iovs.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2355431
The leading hypothesis is that light stimulates the release of dopamine in the retina, and the dopamine blocks the elongation of the eye during development. One study showed that injecting a dopamine-inhbiting drug into the eyes of chicks abolished the protective effect of bright light, and myopia increased. See https://iovs.arvojournals.org/article.aspx?articleid=2126968
Your particular confidence on this ("strongly suspect") bothers me because it has an influence on others, yet it is totally ignorant of what current scientific findings suggest.
I can’t know the top science in every field, so that bars me from discussion, lest I be slammed for having a thought.
This isn’t just anti-science, it’s ignorant of social interactions, and the conversations that lead to greater understanding. You aren’t nearly as smart as you think you are.
Is it ironic or just poetic that this is a myopic take on the meaning of the word "shortsighted"?
This funny to read on a tech oriented website.
I agree that the quarter by quarter financial goals can be a "shortsighted", and I think the problem is even worse when it comes to the 4 year political cycle (2 years if you consider the fact the Houses can change hands).
But Wall Street is still filled to the brim with public companies espousing some future fantasy profits that may or may not ever come. We are as far away from shortsightedness there as we've ever been. One only has to looks at ARKK research to see this.
My first thought was about shortsightedness as the medical issue.
because that's what the term means
short-sightedness
noun: shortsightedness
the quality of being short-sighted; inability to see things clearly unless they are relatively close to the eyes.
AKA myopia
A dictionary of medicine from 1882 suggests that common usage of the word has become more narrow, not less, and that there was some level of debate about the technical meaning [1]. Stedman's Medical Dictionary (1920) gives a more modern definition, "a disease attacking nearly simultaneously a large number of people", without restriction to infectious diseases.
[1] https://www.google.co.uk/books/edition/A_Dictionary_of_Medic...
but short sightedness caused by lack of sunlight exposure is infectuous.
why do you think kids are being kept at home? because of their parents. and why do the parents keep them at home? because of a cultural and societal shift in behavior. and why is this shift happening? because some ideas floating around have infected a large enough number of people.
human ideas (or memes if you like) are precisely like viruses, and if short-sightedness is caused by some ideas being spread then it's no different than it being an actual virally caused disease.
In this case that's not so though, the etymology is from the Greek '(upon|near|against) the people, and does not necessarily refer only to disease.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3373038/#!po=96...
Medicine started to use already existing word, which is fine, but it does not mean original meaning must be erased.
Please do also see the sibling post from member 'one-more-minute'.