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Probably because like most service jobs, unreported tips.

IMHO it is everyone's duty as Americans to tip only in cash by handing it directly to the person who served you. Any other way the business owner, other employees, the government, and even the banks will try to get in between and take a piece.

For example, I have zero faith all the the tip money you send through the Starbucks or Door Dash app actually makes it into the pocket of the laborer.

I consider tips to be small personal gifts to thank someone for what they've done for me. It is nobody's business but mine and the recipient's.

Sad part about this is that a “DoorDash tip” is more of a “bid for a dasher to take my order,” so if it ever seems like you get low quality dasher, that may be why.

Do dashers really see the tip before accepting?

https://youtube.com/shorts/SpEfWSMRJJ8?feature=share

Apparently it’s a big thing of “no tip, no trip”.

They see 'estimated earnings' which is a combination of tip+base service fees, but obviously the higher the tip the better the 'estimated earnings'

> It is nobody's business but mine and the recipient's.

So if I tip via CC, you agree it's not your business to tell me off?

By tipping via CC, you've already involved at least 3 other entities and no longer have the reasonable expectation of privacy that provides tipper/tipee confidentiality.

Basically you are justifying the existence of a parallel economy that avoids taxes and regulations and that can only benefit people with customer facing positions. Amazing.

How about forbidding all tips, and fixing the economy to ensure that this money goes into the hand of all employees - not just the customer facing ones but also the one working behind the scene - and that this amount gets properly taxed so that social services can be provided to everyone ?

If medicare or social security has more commitments than there is income to fund, 100% enforcement of taxes on tips isn't going to fix the issue.

Strawman.

>How about forbidding all tips, and fixing the economy to ensure that this money goes into the hand of all employees -

How about de-taxing and de-regulating the other economy?

Why is it the tipped workers who have to make the compromise? They're not exactly on top of the world to begin with.

Be aware that even tips handed directly in cash will usually be pooled and split with the back of house and others. I worked at a coffee shop where the manager would take a share of tips. I asked her how her share was calculated and she said she just takes whatever she feels is fair based on how much she helped out the front of house that day. All our cash tips were pooled and we got them as part of our paycheck. Compared to any other coffee shop I worked at my tips were terrible there, I would make in two weeks what I would usually pull in a shift or two anywhere else.

I appreciate the cinism and 'taking back control', but if I eat at a restraraunt, I want to tip the cheff -> this way I only give money to the waiter?

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