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Five planets are lining up in the sky in June and will peak tonight

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Just want to encourage anyone with kids...

I woke my son up this morning and we went outside and looked at these. We didn't stay outside very long (maybe 5 minutes). But walking him back inside he stopped and said "thanks for waking me up to see this. I really liked it". Then we both went back to sleep.

It may seem trivial but these are great moments to share with your kids/spouse/SO—there is so much in our lives that we can't see or touch nowadays and it is really meaningful to be able to point up in the sky (even without binocs/assistance) and "see" these planets we talk about but only usually see in pictures.

It can be a real spiritual experience.

This is the kind of parenting advice I can get behind.

Plus you never know your potential whereabouts in eighteen years from now, so it's always good to leave behind little seeds of wonder, as small as mustard seeds in the sky before dawn.

It’s been a rough day. This made me smile. Thank you.

It's too easy to look over this stuff sometimes.

As a parent, I don't always make the right choices. I can beat myself up, but sometimes you just need to point them to something amazing and just let them experience the wonder of it all. It definitely feels like a "reset" to the relationship... even if only for a day.

They don't come with user manuals nor do we. No one hands you a rule book. Don't beat yourself up. Strive to do better. Don't be proud. Be open to learning. The single biggest example you can set your kids is to show them that change is possible and we can all do better.

+1 from someone with a fond memory of watching the perseids with my Dad as a kid. Wasn't keen to be woken at 3am, but it was worth it.

I agree. I woke my daughter up to see NEOWISE when she was six. We climbed a small hill at 2 am to try get a glimpse of it. It was very close to the horizon so we had trees in the way.

We took the car up to a higher point but it got too cloudy so we went back home to sleep.

Even though we never saw the comet she still remembers that time as something exciting and joyful and she often brings it up when we talk about space.

I have a comet chasing memory with my father. We never saw it, drove around two different nights, and had a great time. Won’t forget being up at 3 or 4 am in a little agricultural town pulling over every few minutes to take a look.

I took my motorcycle and went on a night trip to a 2000+ meter high mountain to watch Hyakutake passing by in 1996; the show was nothing short of spectacular: no other lights, no sounds, nothing else than its wonderful glowing shape. Also watched Hale-Bopp years later, but at that time I couldn't move from the city lights pollution and missed like 90% of the show.

My kids (now 15 and 11) still talk about the time we laid out back in the yard and watched the meteor showers in the middle of the night. It’s a top memory for all of us :)

This is awesome!

My daughter and I stayed out on the trampoline one night and played a game to see who could see the first star. She won—and spotted Regulus. It was another one of those beautiful moments. Probably the stillest she's ever been for 15+ minutes...

Good on you.

I distinctly remember my dad waking me up to look at lightning storms or other similar events.

This stuff is important.

My parents are not scientists, and my mother is probably even science skeptical, but two of my strongest, earliest memories were going to the beach to watch a meteor shower. It was magical - I give no qualifications.

I am thankful for this experience often, especially when I see these sorts of discussions. Way to be.

You can think the earth is flat and still enjoy a meteor shower. They're so beautiful, and obviously speak deeply to us as primates or something, because we have so much imagery involving meteors.

It's also worth noting that the planets were all in order as well.... Mercury, Venus, etc etc

I did the same for space shuttle launches

I did the same with my son as well. He got a 76mm Funscope last month, but it has been pretty cloudy. We saw the red band across Jupiter and Saturn's ring. Images were a bit small/blurry, but it was still amazing. I just tucked him tonight for bed, and he said "Thank you for taking me outside to stargaze this morning". He is excited to look for M31/Andromeda next.

This is awesome.

When I was maybe 8 or 9 my parents woke me up to watch a huge meteor shower. We sat in the street in camping chairs for the best view of the sky and it was magical. I remember it strongly to this day.

Frankly even just occasionally deviating from the monotonous schedule and escorting your kids outside at an unusual hour while the world sleeps will always be a worthwhile experience.

No astronomical event necessary.

Just want to extend that encouragement to anyone with a friend or two in close proximity, speaking as a single, no kiddos.

You'd be surprised how many people you run into who have never seen the milky way with their naked eyes (or have completely forgotten that you see the same exact thing as in astronomy photos that you'd swear are definitely-probably digitally altered).

Living in a city buried in light pollution, it's always a treat to see the same facial expressions of amazement and wonder out of adults as you'd get from kids when I bring whatever nearby friends and a couple beers for a late night meteor gazing session during the Perseids, just an hour's drive out of town.

Of course, despite living where light pollution maps mark as a red/white zone (Sacramento, CA), we are fortunate enough to live so close to a blue zone (halfway between town and Lake Tahoe).

For best viewing, one wants to plan for clear skies and time of night during moonset and/or near the new moon. As for Perseids, unfortunately the last few seasons have been a bust for me due to California's record-breaking wildfire seasons completely drowning out the sky.

Is there any way to get alerts on your phone of these events before they happen? It always seem like by the time they make the press and get disseminated on sites like HN it is too late. Was very frustrated by the solar eclipse a while back because by the time the mainstream press picked up on it, glasses were sold out everywhere. There is too much going on to have to manually research and systematically keep track of every topic of interest. Isn't that the point of the News, and sites like Reddit/HN?

NASA puts out a new video called "What's up" at the start of every month with all the interesting, predicted events for stargazing. They post them to both Twitter [0] and YouTube [1] as well as on their Skywatching page [2], the latter of which is a great resource with daily guides. It's a fun start-of-the-month ritual for me to check out the latest events and add them to my personal calendar.

For actual notifications, most stargazing apps probably have some sort of news feed or notification system. I can't recommend a specific one but a quick Google search tells me Star Walk 2 [3] seems to support push notifications

[0] https://twitter.com/NASAJPL/status/1532030924489039877 [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IpgiZJm7szg [2] https://solarsystem.nasa.gov/skywatching/home/ [3] https://starwalk.space/en/tutorials/how-can-i-get-notified-a...

Unlike the eclipse this one will last a few days. Then the planets will slowly drift apart but for the next couple of mornings it will be noticeable.

I use an iPhone app called "Sky Guide". It sends me notifications of interesting events, and the app itself has a "Calendar" page with a list of everything upcoming.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/sky-guide/id576588894

Separately, if you are a New York Times subscriber, you can also subscribe to their Space and Astronomy Events calendar feed:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/science/astronomy-s...

I also recommend an iPhone app called "ISS Finder". It will notify you when the International Space Station will be making a visible flyby over you. You can then run outside and watch the ISS glide across the night sky at 17,000 mph. It takes about one minute to cross the sky. I always feel awe seeing that ISS dot, knowing humans can launch other humans into orbit 250 miles above.

Yes, always a fun sight. Sky Guide has ISS notifications as well.

I second this recommendation. Sky Guide is a wonderful app for space enthusiasts. The calendar feed does a great job of surfacing upcoming events, and even provides insights on light pollution and ideal viewing times in your area.

Thanks for the tip, looks great! Will it notify for possible aurora borealis sightings as well?

I don't know, I'm afraid I don't live somewhere that can see them.

Does anyone have an Android recommendation that's similar?

hey thanks a lot for asking this question, I had no idea I needed this :)

A surprising experience to me was seeing Saturn through a telescope. Despite working on PhD in physics at the time and being a lab demonstrator for an undergraduate astronomy course, I looked at it and thought "shit, it's real!"

Though it was a nice enthusiast-level telescope, I think it was just seeing the rings that did it. So I reckon a cheaper one would have had the same effect.

I too had that reaction the first time I saw it through a telescope. I think some part of me put Saturn pictures in the same category as movies - pretty but not 'real'. When i saw the rings floating there it was pretty mind blowing.

You can see the rings with a small, cheap telescope but they will be a fuzzy blob. Good glass of large diameter is not cheap but it makes a huge difference in the experience. A Dobsonian scope is an excellent choice for good planet viewing at a reasonable price. Dobbies have a good, big mirror with no unnecessary nonsense tacked on.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Dqwun9mqiSo

There's something about seeing a dot in the sky turn into a real picture that just hits you somewhere very primal, I know exactly the feeling although it's hard to explain. It's exactly what you expected to see except blurrier, but it's still like a punch to the gut. Jupiter and its moons are similar, easily seen with a little magnification.

I find that if I sit with it a little bit, I can actually feel the reality of the situation, that I'm in fact looking at an object in front of me that's very very far away but bigger than my entire planet. If that perspective sinks in it really just blows your mind. Maybe similar (though surely lesser) to what astronauts feel when they see the earth as a sphere.

I saw someone post this same thing on Reddit a few years ago, and the weird thing is that I had the same excitement reading the post and seeing the blurry pic of a tiny planet with an obvious ring around it.

I felt the same effect with Saturn many years ago. And also with the dazzling blue-gold double star, Albiero[1]. You can see both the blue and gold colours very clearly through the telescope.

Another excellent thing to look up is the M13 globular cluster[2].

[1] https://earthsky.org/brightest-stars/albireo-finest-double-s...

[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messier_13

I’ve gone out to see the planets a couple of times this week. What’s most amazing for me is that this alignment of planets makes it easy to visualize the plane of the ecliptic [1]. Ordinarily, when we look up at the night sky we see stars and planets seemingly scattered about at random. Now seeing all the planets along an arc helped me recall and visualize this plane extending out from the sun which all of the planets travel along. We might then imagine looking down on the solar system from above and seeing all the planets in their orbital paths.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecliptic

I saw Mars and Jupiter up close with some cheap Celestron Binoculars on a tripod. Could see 4 Galilean moons of Jupiter lined up nicely like tiny white dots.

When I looked first time through telescope at the brightest "star" and saw another 4 smaller "stars" perfectly aligned with it I had a "WTF wrong with this Universe?" moment before realizing it was Jupiter :)

Pretty much what Galileo and those that came first probably thought too.

i discovered this by chance some time last year. being in a city those were the only things visible besides a few other stars, so that line spreading over half the sky really stood out. it was only 3 visible planets and the moon, although pluto was in there too, just not bright enough.

obviously not as impressive as the current view, but although i had an interest in watching stars already a few decades earlier it was the first time i noticed that this was happening, and it made me feel much closer to our solar system.

i was looking up there and thought: wow, this is my neighboorhood. this is home.

I lived for a year in a university apartment for faculty with my father, who was a prof. At the top of the residence building was an observatory with a 10" telescope, now upgraded to 16".

As a kid living there I was often hanging around the building and if the telescope was being operated, sometimes they would let you look, or pick out fun targets to look at. I'll never forget the first times seeing Saturn and Jupiter.

https://www.brandonu.ca/observatory/gallery/

I got up early this morning to take a look and try to get photos. Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn were spectacular and quite visible. I never did see Mercury, we had high humidity after rain last night and maybe that combined with the brightening dawn made it difficult.

Photographing these was a challenge. My widest non fisheye lens (18mm on APS-C sensor) just doesn't capture more than a couple of planets and the moon at a time. Saturn is way off high in the sky to the south while Venus, the Moon, and Mars are all to the east. I snapped off a panorama sequence but Lightroom wasn't able to automatically combine them so I'm going to be manually picking out control points in Hugin to try to get most or all of these into one image. I should have tried at least a couple of shots with the fisheye but I don't have much experience with that and was a little sleepy.

mercury is quite close to the sun which makes it hard to see sometimes as it’s only ever visible for a short time very close to the horizon at twilight

You could also try PTGUI for stitching

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This peaked this morning, not tonight.

Yep. I got up early and was able to see 4/5, due to some cloud cover. I really need to invest in a good camera and telescope.

Well you've got til 2040 to get around to it before next time :)

It seems like there's are a handful of incredible, once-in-a-decade, astronomical events to look at every year.

Depending on weather, this morning might have been "the best", but it was only marginally better than the surrounding several days/weeks.

which timezone? :)

UTC :-)

I recently got interested in looking at the planets and constellations and I want to suggest these to anyone who is interested:

This book introduced me to how the earth moves and how to find any constellations in the sky: https://www.amazon.com/Stars-New-Way-See-Them/dp/0544763440/

My area has pretty bad light pollution and so having this binoculars really helps to see the hard to see stars (The wide angles helps you see several stars at once so I prefer it to the telescopes): https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B084R99W8Q/

Does anyone know if the phenomenon is still observable tonight? The article discussed June 24 sunrise (this morning), but mentions ongoing activity all month.

the planets don't move that fast. it won't stay a perfect line, but weather permitting it should be observable for a few weeks. mercury should be the first to disappear, since it moves the fastest.

Every night they will be in slightly different locations.

The moon moves several degrees in its position in the sky every night and rises later each night. Something like an hour or possibly more. So that's 15 degrees per hour difference. It's been a long time since I've looked at the exact numbers, but those rough numbers gets me close when planning. I use this from time to time when shooting full moon shots. If I shoot the day after the full moon, the moon rises later which means its a bit darker after sunset and not noticeably less full for creative purposes. However, whatever the moon is rising behind will look different. Cityscapes will have the building lights lit and much more obvious nighttime look where day of full moon tends to happen closer to sunset so you have that twighlight look instead.

The planets, being further away, move much less in their positions, but they definitely will be in different arrangements. So if on one day they are more or less in a line, the next day they might be more triangular shaped.

Yes, it should still be! The motion of the planets in the sky is relatively small day-over-day.

A good way to verify yourself would be to use a tool like Stellarium Web [1] and set your location and set the time to tonight at say, 3am (the planets become more visible as you get nearer to dawn tomorrow). You could even change the time from say 6/25 at 3am to 6/24 at 3am to see just how much / little it changes night-over-night.

[1] https://stellarium-web.org/

That's a very nice app. Thanks for that. Seems like the sun is already getting up when the constellation happens from where I live, sadly. Not sure if I'll be able to see Mercury.

Anyone know if they’ll still be visible from the E Coast tomorrow (Saturday) 45 min before sunrise (which was the optimal time this morning?

The planets will all still be fairly well aligned, but the moon will be a bit off (since it's the closest, it moves through the sky the fastest).

I used Stellarium to find this out, great program, very easy to use, and free and open source.

http://stellarium.org/

Also worth noting that the planets are in order; first Mercury, then Venus, etc etc

For the last few weeks I have enjoyed seeing all of the mentioned planets on my early morning runs - with the exception of Mercury.

Guessing I’m unable to see it because it is either too low in the sky, obscured by far away clouds, or too dim compared with the brightening sky.

Has anyone ever been able to see it with the unaided eye?

Yes, Mercury was very prominent a couple of weeks ago. Of course it's always close to the Sun, so perhaps your horizon viewing conditions have obscured it (I have to walk so that the trees and street lights are out of the way).

I've been trying to track the Pleiades for Matariki (Maori New Year), which are currently just above Venus.

Glad you were able to see it. I’m guessing you might be in the southern hemisphere? Heard Mercury viewing this time was somewhat better there.

Forgot to mention I’m in the northern hemisphere.

I saw it unaided this morning. I live at roughly 40°N 85°W, and went out at 5:30AM. With a clear view of the horizon, Mercury was unobstructed but hard to see with the pre-dawn light. I might go out again tomorrow morning at 5:00 or 5:15 to see it more distinctly.

Thanks. Maybe I’ll try to find it one last time at around 5am tomorrow.

Tonight, or this morning? Too late?

The article says the peak was this morning (June 24, 45 minutes before sunrise.)

Some time ago I learnt that such an event was called a _syzygy_. What a pleasant sound!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syzygy_(astronomy)

Coincidentally (yeah, that is what They(tm) want you to believe...), that is also the title of a really fun and strange episode of the X-Files. One of my favorites.

"Hate him."

Back when I was in high school, I lived relatively far from urban area, and light pollution has not been so bad. Night sky was very beautiful back then. I used to wake up just to observe any sky event, be it a lunar eclipse, meteor shower, or just to captivate myself with the beauty of Milky Way. Now that I live closer to the city, and the light pollution is quite bad,I can't enjoy watching the night sky like it used to be.

There are a lot of interesting phenomena for stargazer in our lifetime but I can't see lots of them so far because: 1. Cloudy skies 2. Rainy days 3. Light pollutions

I, for one, welcome the return of our Elder God overlords. Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn

Sucks that this happens in the Northern summer and I live at 60°N… It’s totally impossible to see this lineup from here as the planets rise essentially at the same time as the sun. Besides even at midnight the sky wouldn’t get dark enough to see anything except maybe Venus and Jupiter! Comet Neowise in 2020 was equally impossible to spot from here, frustratingly.

> The planets are lining up in their natural order from the Sun, which is also remarkable, says the science magazine published by American Astronomical Society.

I find it fun that, in the simulated sky showing this event, the moon (standing in for the earth) appears between Venus and Mars, the correct location.

I have been looking for a (relatively) inexpensive binoculars/tripod setup so when I am out of town and in the boonies, I can enjoy the stars. For everything I look at, though, there's a caveat -- bad collimation, poor eye relief, etc. If it isn't one thing, it's another.

I was fortunate and managed to see all five at a similar occasion many decades ago. My image-stabilized binoculars helped a lot in finding Mercury in the glowing sky near the sun. It helped that I was on a work mission to a remote area with just the clear uninterrupted sky.

Today[day after]'s NASA APOD ( astronomy picture of the day ):

https://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap220625.html

since the pandemic I've been learning astrophotography.

https://www.instagram.com/mead_observatory/

sorry for the Instagram link.

it's exciting to see planet season is starting up. hopefully i'll actually produce something decent looking this year.

Great work there!!

This sounds like some christian cult movie beginning blaring about antichoice victories

Can I see them tomorrow? o.O

Are we launching another Voyager soon?

I suspect this alignment is more about the planets being aligned from our view point, not that they are in the best configuration for pulling off gravity assist for spacecrafts wanting to use the alignment in their favor like voyager 1 and 2 did, IIRC that configuration was set to repeat every 176 years or so.

Source: recently watched the voyager documentary

nah they peaked in high school

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