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I don't know if this answers your question, but my employer (engineering firm) just announced last Friday that starting July 5th being in the office Tue-Thu is mandatory. Then Sept 5th Mon-Fri is mandatory. Pre-covid there were very very few remote positions at my employer, we are going back to that I guess. I've been going in Mon-Fri anyways, so it doesn't really effect me.

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My employer just announced last Friday that starting July 5th being in the office Tue-Thu is mandatory.

Then you need to remind your employer that your presence on the team is not "mandatory", but rather optional. In the form of the 2-week notice you give once you have found a much better job that also respects your health and sanity.

I think you missed the part where the parent said that they were going into the office _by choice_ every day anyway. You are demanding that they quit just because the company doesn't make it optional?

There seems to be a hard-core "WFH or nothing" contingent here that refuse to acknowledge that a great many people prefer and even thrive working in a typical office environment.

It was a suggestion, not a demand. Anyone who reads stay/quit advice they read on the internet as a "demand" has bigger problems than I can help them with.

I don't think I've ever seen an argument from the hardcore "WFH or nothing" contingent saying that nobody should be allowed to work in an office if that's what they prefer.

But I have seen arguments from the hardcore "Butts in chairs or nothing" contingent refusing to acknowledge that a great many people thrive outside a typical office environment and may be even more productive that way.

That's the big difference between the camps. The vocal WFH people by and large only want the option to work remote or not. The vocal WFO people want to return to the office and make everyone else return to the office, too.

It really depends where you live and work. I used to work for a startup few years back that was 15minutes bike ride from my apartment. So MUCH better for my mental health. Now I am remote with a company on a different continent, it is good and I have a home office but sometimes I just get my laptop and go to a coffee shop for no reason. Might get a permanent desk at a coworksping space. Even with dedicated space at home going outside makes me happier

Now if I had your typical 1 hours each way driving commute.. no way I am going to the office

Yeah - I* want my office and home to be separate spaces. I like to have a short commute (ideally walking). Walking with no destination in mind in the morning just doesn't suit the same purpose for me. :(

Why bother giving 2 weeks notice to such a wretched company who tries to dictate these things? Just don't bother showing up anymore.

Just in time for the next covid wave.

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