What is unethical about recording a conversation strictly for personal, private use(ie, a memory aid)?
Would it be better if it all that was stored was a transcript and not a voice recording?
Would it be better if it all that was stored was a transcript and not a voice recording?
Nothing, per se. I just don't want to be surreptitiously recorded.
If GP were to say, "hey, I'm going to record this conversation because [my memory sucks|I want to make sure I get this right|most any reasonable purpose]," I'd likely say "sure. Go right ahead."
But IMHO, recording me (or anyone else, but I'm only responsible for me) without my knowledge/consent is definitely unethical.
>Would it be better if it all that was stored was a transcript and not a voice recording?
No. While I do have a deep, soothing voice, it's being surreptitiously (there's that word again) recorded that's a problem for me -- whatever form that recording takes.
If you think someone is doing this with an axe to grind, make some smalltalk/banter in video ambit how you’re visiting friends in Maryland and can’t wait to see the Orioles. You’ll probably get a reaction.
Edit: I'm not really sure what you mean by "get a reaction" here. What sort of reaction do you mean? I'd expect that in such a circumstance, the one doing the surreptitious recording would just wait for the other party to say whatever it is they wanted to hear/record.
I'm leaving my original response below, not as a swipe at you (it never was one), but because I said it and it would be (in my mind) inappropriate to remove it.
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Something along the lines of "Wow. The Orioles really suck this year (well, most years)!" perhaps?
Or were you thinking of something else (like a mumbled, "Arrr! My dastardly plans have been foiled by MLB!")?
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Don't the online conferencing tools say when they're recording?
the love letters of James Joyce to Nora are surely a gross violation of privacy that would never be ethically allowed now -- the only reason it is tolerated is due to the historical nature of the character in question.
Similarly I can imagine outrage if the personal conversation of two famous people were somehow released to the public during a time relevant to the people at hand, especially if the conversation was somehow risque or damning.
and by all accounts it's easier to have documents stolen now than it was when conceptually a document was a paper sitting in a safe or a bookshelf.
So, in principle I don't think that the writing itself is unethical, however that information could be considered privileged, in which case it's unethical not to make every possible attempt at securing it.
In other words the act isn't unethical but it can quickly snowball into ethically grey territory.
No. Nor would I find it unethical for you to take notes during the conversation.
I meant exactly what I said, no more, no less:
I do not want to be *surreptitiously* recorded.
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How do I know it'll be strictly for private use? How do I know this person has good op-sec around data? Maybe I'm saying something more candidly verbally because I trust this person that I wouldn't want to be recorded or surfaced later out of context? Especially considering how this kind of thing has been weaponized recently.
If I found out a friend was doing this to me without my consent I'd be pissed and would probably stop interacting with them. That they have to hide it suggests they know it would be poorly received (I'm not sure why they'd even admit to it on this forum).
A big element of having a friend is trust. Trust enough that one feels free to say stupid things, one doesn't have to watch every word. It's cathartic to say things you don't really mean. No trust => not a friend.
Fucking someone up is unethical too, but it is way more common to hear how someone was deceived than how someone was upheld to their own words.
/rant off
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