> As you surely know, Red Hat has been the main sponsor of Ceylon over the years, and we're all eternally grateful for this support. It would have been simply impossible to kick-start a project of this scope without the backing of Red Hat. (Full disclosure: we ourselves are employed by Red Hat.)

I had a faulty recollection of this post on the ceylon/dev Gitter https://gitter.im/ceylon/dev?at=5d2765cff5dd14574268bcb3. Funding dried up at Red Hat. Gavin King said that he might try to convince IBM to revive it, but only if he had a clear business case.

> Folks I guess I owe you a bit of a response here, but obviously I have my reasons for not wanting to say too much in public

> As of yesterday I'm an IBM employee which hopefully means that in the medium term there will be more money available for R&D around here, for projects which can make a reasonable case for being worthy of investment in the last couple of years of Red Hat's existence as an independent company, there was essentially no funding available for this kind of project, and Ceylon was a victim of that shortage

> However, obviously, if I'm going to try and convince my fund a new development team for this project, I will have to find a convincing reason to do that, and I will have to think very carefully about what precisely a "next" Ceylon would look like (of course I already have some ideas of mistakes we made, and opportunities that now exist that didn't before, but no clear business case)

> It's probably better if I don't say any more on this topic in this place