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This did absolutely nothing. Carriers like Bandwidth, Commio, Telnyx don’t enforce this and just complete their customers calls as if nothing ever happened.

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Enforcement starts tomorrow. June 30 is the deadline for STIR/SHAKEN implementation at small (under 100k subscriber) outfits.

Already confirmed with them that absolutely nothing is going to happen.

I don't think they get to determine whether they get prosecuted by the FCC.

What is your source for this? ("I work in the industry" isn't good enough, in case you're starting to say that.)

Link us to some sort of industry news site, or press releases, etc.

My source is that we reached out and have high level folks at each carrier saying ain’t nothing gonna change tomorrow or after.

"Nothing's going to change" could mean "nothing's going to change for you" or "it doesn't apply to us yet for reason x", or "we've been compliant long before today". Wording matters, and I find it fairly hard to believe a large VoIP provider is going to openly go "oh yeah we're looking to intentionally get smacked down by the FCC".

Did I stutter when I said "provide a link"? You're some rando on an internet website.

Do you really think they will make a publish statement about this? Call them and see for yourself. There is absolutely no Stir Shaken verification of any kind other than a look up in the robocall mitigation database where each VoIP business self attests to complying with inquiries and other fcc robocall regulations. Takes 5 minutes to create such an entry for your VoIP company and nobody checks it

> Do you really think they will make a publish statement about this?

No, but that's why I'm skeptical about your claim; I don't think they'd tell you that either.

If they did, I'd encourage you to whistleblow.

I have a very successful VoIP business, why would I blow the whistle? A couple months away from finalizing our Stir Shaken certification, no need to mess things up ahead of time :)

I dunno if the FCC has a program, but whistleblowing can be pretty profitable.

https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2021-211

So are you, who are you to order them around?

What does this mean? You called Bandwidth, Commio, & Telnyx and asked?

Correct, we use all 3 for our VoIP business.

Do you have a list of other carriers who will not comply? I'll call my senator about these 3. I suggest others do the same.

As mentioned, there is concern about if the FCC can enforce these rules. But Robospam is bi-partisan. This is one issue I think even our dysfunctional government can agree on.

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