The Supreme Court’s Latest Decision Is a Blow to Stopping Climate Change
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> a decision of such magnitude and consequence rests with Congress itself, or an agency acting pursuant to a clear delegation from that representative body.
Honestly it's hard to see how that position is unreasonable. If Congress wants the EPA to have this power, let them vote to give it. If Congress does not want the EPA to have this power, then the EPA shouldn't attempt to exercise power they don't have. There's really no other solution if we're going to have a representative government.
Also, the Supreme Court has always restricted the types of laws that Congress can pass, based on what the Constitution says. However this doesn't involve Constitutionality. Congress can absolutely pass a law giving this exact power to the EPA and the Supreme Court couldn't touch it.
I think if you asked any of the folks in 1970 whether that was the intent of the Clean Air Act they’d be surprised.
Can you provide any evidence that regulating clean air does not apply to air pollutants?
If a person thinks that CO2 is not air pollution, then the onus is on them to show that it's not. Repealing an entire class of laws in order to stop undesired scientific conclusions is not a good way to set legal precedent.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clean_Power_Plan
> The plan will require individual states to meet specific standards with respect to reduction of carbon dioxide emissions.[22] States are free to reduce emissions by various means, and must submit emissions reductions plans by September 2016, or, with an extension approval, by September 2018.[23] If a state has not submitted a plan by then, the EPA will impose its own plan on that state.[23]
However, some politicians didn't like this outcome. They didn't have the votes, so they are legislating from the bench.
There's no other way to view this. What you call "commandeering" is exactly the same as all the other regulations, like sulphuric oxide for acid rain. It's just that some people have politics that takes precedence over the possible scientific outcomes.
The thing about CO2 is that there is no control technology you can install on a plant to scrub out the CO2. That would ordinarily preclude the EPA from setting an emissions limit—because it can only set those limits based on what control technologies can achieve.
So what the EPA did was say that states could meet the emissions targets by switching from coal to renewable sources, and justified setting an emissions limit on the theory that this was an “emissions reduction system” under the statute.
The only difference this time is that it's CO2 as the pollutant, and fossil fuel interests are extremely politically powerful, and don't like the science that shows that CO2 is a pollutant. That's it. Remember when the ruling happened, and all sorts of people were like "CO2 can't be a pollutant"? This is the outcome of that thought.
If EPA did not have this authority, by law, then this would have been challenged on much easier grounds far before. In order for the EPA's actions to be overturned, the court had to overturn the very law itself.
Congress cannot delegate a sector to an agency, because agencies are executive branch entities and the executive branch can’t make laws. Executive branch agencies operate under the fiction that they are merely enforcing laws Congress has created. That’s why Congress can’t delegate agencies the power to make rules with the force of law in an entire sector. It has to be more specific, so that the agency is simply “filling in the details.”
And the Clean Air Act is specific. It allows the EPA to fill in the details about pollutants and emissions levels. But it doesn’t give the EPA blanket authority to do whatever is necessary to achieve those targets. It has a detailed menu of measures, such as requiring particular types of emissions control technology on individual plants.
In this case the EPA told the entire energy sector to switch away from coal to renewables. That wasn’t on the list of measures available under the Clean Air Act.
There's a whole bunch of wrong rolled up here. The regulations were about how to stop CO2 from polluting the atmosphere. From there, you try to play Senator CS to shift this into some sort of weird "delegating an industry" language.
But in the end it was all about regulating CO2.
If the EPA had acted outside its authority, in what you term "delegating an industry," lower courts would have said that.
Instead, in order to stop the EPA's actions, the Supreme Court had to change the scope of the law that was passed.
> But in the end it was all about regulating CO2.
The regulations were about how to stop things OTHER than CO2 from polluting the atmosphere without destroying the US economy. Things like Sulfur Dioxide and fly ash.
CO2 may fall under the language as written, and it may be appropriate for the EPA to regulate it, but that was not the central example of an airborne pollutant back in the 70s when this was written (Or 90s, when it was amended).
That is precisely what they did. It was called the Clean Air Act, and Congress passed it in 1963.
SCOTUS's reasoning here is hinky, to use an official legal term: it's clear that Congress has empowered the EPA here, but that SCOTUS finds it easier to claim that they never truly did rather than that they oughtn't to have.
Given that the danger of CO2 was completely unknown in 1963 and green energy technologies almost didn't exist. I'm not sure how you can claim that.
This is a bizarre claim!
From https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
> In 1896, a seminal paper by Swedish scientist Svante Arrhenius first predicted that changes in atmospheric carbon dioxide levels could substantially alter the surface temperature through the greenhouse effect. In 1938, Guy Callendar connected carbon dioxide increases in Earth's atmosphere to global warming.
Also read: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_climate_change_sc...
Rediscovering old previously discredited scientific papers from the late 19th and early 20th century doesn't make it date all the way back to then.
The CAA empowers the EPA to identify pollutants, and that's what the EPA has (correctly!) done. Whether or not the scientific consensus from the 1960s agrees is immaterial.
Don’t want to talk guns, but want to illustrate the challenges of making such claims
If laws can’t be interpreted to account for new circumstances, then it must be legal to pay to have someone killed as long as you use Bitcoin — after all the law didn’t specifically ban the use of Bitcoin.
Section 202(a)(1) is pretty explicit that the law does not limit the pollutants under the low to those known to the legislative body[1]:
> The Administrator shall by regulation prescribe (and from time to time revise) in accordance with the provisions of this section, standards applicable to the emission of any air pollutant from any class or classes of new motor vehicles or new motor vehicle engines, which in his judgment cause, or contribute to, air pollution which may reasonably be anticipated to endanger public health or welfare.
Edit: In other words: even if we could show that Congress was unaware of CO2's effect on the environment, it simply doesn't matter. The Act empowers the EPA to identify and address the pollutants.
The bill is clearly not intended to “shut down” anything. It empowers the EPA to protect the quality of the air that we all breathe, and that’s how it was applied. If coal power plants need to externalize their pollution to be financially viable, that says more about our failures to preempt the situation than some kind of bloodthirsty plot on the EPA’s part.
Clearly Congress itself thought there was a law needed - that the EPA didn't have the authority to do what it went on to try and do.
Since Congress only considered the law and didn't actually pass it, I would say that they did not think there was a law needed.
* Congress's priorities are not my priorities, your priorities, or even particularly reasonable.
* Congress's ability to efficiently pass laws (at least ones that don't involve funding the military or lowering taxes) has consistently declined over the last 30 years. The last 15 years, in particular, have seen incredibly ugly political brinkmanship over basic legislative responsibilities. In other words: there may be abstract votes in favor of new EPA laws but they're difficult (impossible?) to materialize.
* Congress may feel it has no particular input to provide to the EPA's administrative interpretation of the law. This is the explanation that strikes me as most salient (even if all others happen to be correct): it's entirely possible that a majority of Congress sees no particular problem with the EPA's policies, and would much prefer to pass the buck and play political games around the EPA rather than actually changing legislation.
For my part, I think it’s a bit of a stretch to say that CO2 emissions aren’t covered by the clean air act. And since the decision clearly follows the conservative agenda, it’s hard to not see it as a politically-driven decision.
However, CO2 emissions are not pollutants in the normal sense of the term. They do not directly harm human health by their existence in the environment.
This is "the donkey hung the man, not the executor yoking the donkey" logic. We have overwhelming evidence that CO2 emissions are a primary efficient cause for climate change, which we have overwhelming reason to believe will directly harm the lives and welfare of billions.
It doesn't matter that we won't die of CO2 asphyxiation itself, because neither the CAA nor common sense establishes that standard.
Not everything that leads to harm is pollution.
Of course not. But things that come out of tailpipes and smokestacks are frequently pollutants, and it staggers the mind to think of a sense in which CO2 does not meet even the "limited" sense of the word under the CAA (i.e., a sense strictly limited to motor vehicles.)
This is like saying we shouldn't ban an industrial chemical that is destroying US wheat production but does not directly impact human health.
Compromises are found iteratively - moving the lever too far creates pressure on the opposing side, and the regulation changes back.
Globalization eliminated the feedback loop. Each time the West hardens environmental standards, a some "dirty" production just moves to less developed countries, along with the jobs, knowledge and culture for achieving things. That CO2 is still emitted overseas, but we conveniently turn a blind eye to it, arguing whether we should have shorter showers or ban plastic straws. Now it's biting us hard, since it turned out those countries have much less political stability, so as the shit finally hit the fan, we suddenly have a shortage of everything.
Maybe, just maybe, having the emissions managed on the state level will let different states explore different potential trade-offs between being green and being dysfunctional, and we can hopefully find a better compromise that takes a more complete picture into consideration.
King Solomon, is that you[1]?
I'm afraid that the supreme court stifling the ability of the US to legislate against carbon emissions is going to slow down the entire world who has been looking to the US as an example on what to do.
As noted in the above link, Congress from time to time amends the Act to update the list, which was last done in 1990. That's all it takes: an amendment to the Act, passed by Congress. They can and have done this before, and yes, even with "climate deniers" signing off on it. The sole reason it hasn't been amended since then is because of the increased practice of doing omnibus bills and each group adding unreasonable expenditures and pet projects to otherwise uncontroversial legislation. How that gets stopped I have no idea, since the only legislators I am aware of who oppose that sort of thing get lambasted by hyper partisan media and the voters who gobble up that propaganda.
It's not just bad that another state might harm the same environment you're trying your hardest to protect, they might start to outcompete methods of doing things cleaner, costing local jobs, green mindshare and votes.
A progressive succession seems more likely every day.
This is a huge problem warranting an apoplectic reaction because everyone knows Congress won’t do that. In fact, voters are about to hand Congress back over to the GOP because they’re mad about paying $5/gallon for gas. The vast majority of Americans want to address climate change, but won’t pay even $10/month extra on their electric bill to do so: https://www.cato.org/blog/68-americans-wouldnt-pay-10-month-.... Having Congress vote to raise everyone’s energy costs is a total non-starter.
The unstated subtext to all this is that, to address climate change, we need to bypass democracy and impose sweeping changes through unelected bureaucrats and boring administrative proceedings nobody pays attention to. And it’s quite revealing who thinks that’s a good idea and who thinks it’s a bad idea.
Yet the only example you give is requiring coal plants to install particulate scrubbers, which… sounds perfectly reasonable coming from an agency tasked to reduce air pollution?
This is what the alternative interpretation would allow.
> The plan will require individual states to meet specific standards with respect to reduction of carbon dioxide emissions.[22] States are free to reduce emissions by various means, and must submit emissions reductions plans by September 2016, or, with an extension approval, by September 2018.[23] If a state has not submitted a plan by then, the EPA will impose its own plan on that state.[23]
People pay attention to SCOTUS, but you've otherwise described them to a T. SCOTUS is not elected; the EPA, in contrast, is empowered through an Act of Congress. The people you've described as "unelected bureaucrats" are a mostly well-educated civil service, one you've presented no evidence against to warrant their malignment.
You buy the senators who choose the judges and the presidents who appoint them.
And no, no matter what anyone says, there is no structure in the US such that direct bribery of politicians is legal. Lobbying is not bribery.
Campaign contributions are effectively bribery if they are large enough.
And Citizens United allowed for a lot of dark money to be spread around...
Polarization has really fried peoples' brains.
It is not symmetrical. It is pure power grab by wing who is also trying to dismantle democratic system itself.
IMHO, the issue is polarization. In large part, it's prevented the pro-democracy groups from prioritizing their issues to actually successfully defend democracy, and kept them trapped in the same old partisan modes. The result? Stuff like Democrats literally spending tons of money to support extremist election-denier Republicans, because they think they'll be easier to beat later (I suppose like Donald Trump was?).
The issue is that the left was taken over by monied interests who pitted social issues against class issues.
First past the past voting meant voting for the wolf in sheepskin or the leapord
Do you mean "centrism" or "bipartisan-ism," because they're different and it's mainly the latter that would have the problem you seem to be describing.
Whatever we have now is basically the partisan equivalent of hoping you can have your cake and eat it too.
Congress could pass laws saying that the EPA can regulate greenhouse gas emissions, that states cannot forbid abortions, etc.
If you think that these rulings are not plausible interpretations of the law, Congress can even define the size of the court[0]. They could pack the court with judges who will interpret the law in their favor.
It is my understanding that the Democratic Party that holds the majority in both chambers claims to be in favor of these policies, so why aren't they taking action?
CA senator represents ~10000000
WY senator represents ~200000
So the question remains - why don't they just do what the court has said they should, and pass a law?
Democrats do have the power to change those procedural rules, but there's huge downsides in doing so.
Bottom line - don't look for easy solutions to complex political problems. They're likely to be loaded with unintended consequences.
They could end the filibuster - but that would likely backfire. End the filibuster now right before Summer recess and the Fall election cycle where not much gets done? Probably not a wise move, especially if the Republicans regain control of the senate and now you've just handed them the reigns of unbridled power. Probably not a good move. That's why the filibuster stays.
Our problem really isn't so much that our Congress is deadlocked. Heck, I argue that deadlock is actually a preferable state. Otherwise these bozos would be sowing chaos on a daily basis. The game that's changed is using procedural rules to steal supreme court justice nominations from one president and giving them to another. Trump seized that opportunity and to maximize his legacy and influence chose the youngest and most controversial judges he could get through the nominations.
I know many liberals who refused to vote for Hillary Clinton in 2016. I tried to explain to them, to no avail, what would happen with regards to the Supreme Court should Trump win. I was pooh-poohed. Repeatedly told I was over-sensationalizing things. I've since received apologies from many of them but who cares? The damage has been done and will continue for much of the remainder of our lives.
There is a way out of this mess, but right now America is too polarized for that solution to be viable. Supreme Court justices can be impeached and removed from the bench - it's even been done before. But you need 2/3 of the Senate onboard to do it. I don't realistically see that happening any time for the next 20 years, if ever, and by then the damage wrought will be so severe that I'm afraid America will be unrecognizable.
Bottom line - America was already in decline. This Supreme Court is just going to accelerate that decline. If anything they might jolt Democrats out of their complacency and turning their noses up at any candidate they don't think is absolutely perfect. Who knows? Maybe something good will come out of this after all.
Because this bill was stayed by Supreme Court, removed by Trump, and then replaced by a new interpretation put in place by the Trump EPA, this interpretation in question has basically never been in place in the some 12 years since it was passed.
Wikipedia has a good summary of the events leading up to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_v._EPA
> The case centers on language of Section 7411(d) of Title 42 of the United States Code[2] authorizing the EPA to regulate emissions from existing power plants, which when amended and signed into law in 1990 mistakenly included contradictory language from both the House and Senate's version of the bill that never was reconciled, leaving the interpretation to the EPA.
> The suit stems from a 2015 Obama administration EPA rule, the Clean Power Plan, based on a statutory interpretation of section § 7411(d) towards meeting the Paris Agreement in carbon dioxide emissions reductions. The Clean Power Plan was challenged by several states and coal industry companies, and stayed by order of the Supreme Court. With the Trump administration, the EPA repealed the Clean Power Plan in favor of the less-aggressive Affordable Clean Power rule in 2019 based on a different interpretation of § 7411(d), and the case against the Clean Power Plan rendered moot. Several other states and health and environmental groups challenged this new rule, and the District of Columbia Circuit Court ruled in January 2021 that the Affordable Clean Power rule was arbitrary and capricious and misinterpreted § 7411(d), vacating this new rule.
> Several of the states that first challenged the Clean Power Plan as well as coal industry-related companies challenged the D.C. Circuit's ruling on their analysis of the § 7411(d) and the EPA's authority granted by it, concerned that the Circuit's ruling would give the EPA far broader powers on emissions regulation. West Virginia v. EPA represents a consolidation of four petitions that the Supreme Court certified to review the D.C. Circuit's decision.
> The court issued its 6-3 opinion on June 30, 2022, ruling that regulation of power plant emissions on a national scale fell within the major questions doctrine, and within that, Congress did not grant the EPA authority to regulate emissions based on generation shifting mechanisms, which would have invalidated the Clean Power Plan. The EPA may still continue to regulate emissions through emissions reduction technologies.
And as for the meaning of that "major questions doctrine".
> The major questions doctrine is a rough analogue to the nondelegation doctrine, where the Supreme Court has held in recent years that in order for them to do so, Congress must have clearly authorized agencies to regulate issues of national significance.[14] When Congress fails to comply with this clear statement rule, the courts infer that Congress did not intend to empower the agency.
I'm not clear exactly how to interpret this personally.
The answer is not targeting coal or ng. It's targeting the quantity of C emitted into the air. The very best way to do this is to tax the C in fuels that get burnt.
Then it is not necessary to have all sorts of regulations about what can be burned, etc. Just tax the C. The market will then sort it out.
The speed at which the market adapts to small price changes is not fast enough. Additionally, we need to take quick action in ways that have very different costs for different industries.
For example, steel and concrete have large process emissions, and are industries with extremely low margins, high capital costs, and long capital lifetimes. Decarbonization of these industries is unlikely to happen even with high carbon taxes of $200/ton, because not only is the successor tech not yet understood, there's no guarantee that an investment in a potential carbon-less concrete will have a market.
A much better approach is to guarantee the market, at any price, but let it be a competitive market for that carbon-free steel or carbon-free concrete. E.g. a small number of customers that band together and state that they will only buy carbon-free concrete for construction, that needs X million tons in the next 5 years. This will allow entrepeneurs to raise money, because they have a guaranteed market where they only compete with the new tech, rather than having to compete with the general market plus a price. Let those initial businesses get going, iterate, and drive down costs.
Carbon taxes are great if you view the economy as a series of interacting spherical cows, which is how economists are the macro level must envision it in order to get their models to work.
We, as entrepreneurs, can start to de-spherify the cows and see where the models fail, and reality must be substituted.
Really this isn't something where the 'free market' and 'magic hand' will magically fix things. Everything that needs to be done is clear as day.
Want to reduce emission from people driving? Implement work from home, not too far from home polices. Provide for buy backs for older fossil fueled cars and steep excise taxes on new ones. Soften the pain for working class people with down payment assistance and grants for electric cars, heat pumps, etc. Pass laws requiring utilities to sunset fossil fuel plants.
None of this is hard it's just willful stupidity and ideology in the way.
For example, taxing CO2 will immediately spur transitioning coal to natural gas, which emits half the CO2 per joule.
It will also make geothermal home heating systems much more attractive.
Going to punish some working guy making $20/hr because he bought a used Crown Victoria in 2010? Or offer to buy it back and give them a down payment grant to put them in a newer hybrid/electric?
Lot less blow back in the latter option. It's also what California is doing right now.
With a CO2 tax, the revenue can be used to reduce the sales tax.
These silly things are both expensive and actually increase CO2 emissions by making it cheaper to burn filthy coal.
For the low-income people, they mean prices for energy and transportation go up for no directly realizable benefit. Sure, we can say "you'll get a rebate at the end of the year", but that doesn't help when that extra 50 bucks out of pocket means a choice between air conditioning and getting to work on time.
For the middle-income people, they mean industry leaves for countries that don't have carbon taxes. They realize that free trade and (an intentional?) failure to levy carbon taxes on goods produced out of the country mean that all the law does is make domestic manufacturing companies less competitive, and what's worse, the countries that have no environmental production use inefficient processes to produce goods thus increasing emissions beyond what they would have been otherwise.
A tax on imported goods made with dirty industrial processes would solve both of those problems, but doing that would also impact the income brackets currently making money hand over fist in the current regulatory climate- so it won't be done.
The reasoning for "we need to collectively drop our standard of living" needs to be seen to impact everyone for it to have a chance of being accepted as valid and right now it really, really isn't.
In practice I'm not sure how anyone is going to make a dent without switching to nuclear power.
If you want to be really self-serving and hypocritical about this sort of thing, you can even skip out on doing the first part, and jump straight to the second.
If the US ignored it and does not take action, other countries are less likely to take action, because the U.S. is generally a leader on these things.
It's kind of like asking "If the US stops pooping in the pool, what's to stop another kid from pooping in the pool?" Well those other kids are a hell of a lot more likely to poop in the pool if they see an international leader doing it.
Also, by leading the way and showing how decerbonization is not only cheaper, but also healthier, other countries will be more likely to try to save money similarly.
Most places that are installing coal these days are doing it because of local corruption. It's a lot easier to grift off a huge project than it is off of small distributed energy. Seeing that the US is moving away from coal will mean that corrupt local officials will have less excuse to pick outdated technology that lets them get bribed.
This is a separate issue from federal action. We take all sorts of actions with vast political and economic action that don't save money, to reduce pollution.
But by leading the way, we will encourage other countries to not build coal plants, which was the "legitimate" question that was asked.
Higher standards in California mean companies default to that standard nation wide because it's easier to have a single product and avoid supply chain issues.
Same reason most all orange juice is Kosher. A small but large enough hard preference controls the market because the rest dont care enough.
Hopefully red states won't put an mpg cap out of spite
Also California has it's own specific blend of gasoline and that hasn't been adopted nationwide at all. It's only used in California.
Texas produces around five times as much wind energy as California, and for half the price of California's wind energy.
Unless you can identify a certain thing in California that caused Texas to increase it's wind power I think your argument is pretty vacuous.
I ran the numbers a few years ago to see what personal actions I could take. (Even though climate change is a collective action problem, not a personal action problem.) In the US, stopping buying so much stuff isn't much of a climate action, at least not nearly as much as switching off driving a gas car, changing your natural gas water heater to electric, ir changing a natural gas furnace to a heat pump.
Good.
Edit: I'm contextualizing this opinion through a legal lens, pointing to what it really does. From now on, Congress will have to pass laws (e.g. Do Their Jobs) to pass environmental legislation, instead of relying on the bureaucratic executive branch.
Also expressing that this is good, which is a personal opinion, but I think I'm providing value here.
Where is the buck being passed, precisely? To me this reads more as a cynical prediction by SCOTUS (that Congress will continue to deadlock, effectively granting victory-by-default to conservative causes). And they probably won't be wrong in that prediction, if the last decade serves as evidence.
No, it doesn't mean that. The Major Question doctrine only even comes into play on its own terms if (1) Congress has, in fact, passed a law, and (2) the matter addressed by the law is entirely withing Congress Constitutional power, and (3) an executive agency is acting entirely in accord with the law passed by Congress.
The solution is to tax it.
The free market would do the rest to kill off the petroleum industry.