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Indian scammers are such a scourge. Was watching some videos on Kitboga's channel. They're just horrible people with no conscience. People will try to say "But they're poor. If only we made them not poor they wouldn't need to scam." Learn enough about the nature of these scammers and you won't be apologizing them.

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I range ban India from my websites. Cut my spam by 95%.

This is honestly a great idea. None of my sites need or want non-US traffic. Why am I allowing it at all?

Not a new tactic. A classic way to cut down exploit attempts to something you can actually monitor rather than a firehose, for sites that don't need an international audience, is to blackhole IP blocks from China and Russia. Sites have been doing that since at least the early 2000s.

This is futile. There's these services called VPN's that let me exit my traffic into the US.

For a motivated attacker for sure but if you're just trying to cut down on run of the mill low quality stuff this seems effective.

> This is futile.

I will pop by and rob you later, I assume you have no windows, doors or locks and wont call the police after I clean you out because it would be futile.

It’s not just India. Many of these come from Pakistan, egypt and other locations as well.

According to a recent post on HN, some of the scammers might actually be held captive and forced to scam people:

>Captives are subjected to violence and torture, which is sometimes filmed and sent to relatives to spur them to send ransoms. Some have been killed and their deaths reported as suicide, according to workers who have escaped.

https://maxread.substack.com/p/whats-the-deal-with-all-those...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31949731

It is an awful situation. Sending money only perpetuates it though further enabling the real brains behind it to commit more egregious crimes. At some point, lesser evil is to say no.

Its kind of sad what unemployment can do to people. India's unemployment rate has always been high and has kept going up post COVID.

On the flip side, not all Indians are bad. I've got multiple chances to work with some of them in the past and they are just a refreshing change to work with.

The Indian scams are a lasting effect of British colonialism.

I won't hold it against people to get back what the west stole. At least there's no beatings or killings in the retribution

How exactly are Indian scams lasting effects of colonialism?

Being poor doesn't make people evil. Inequality is the one that creates evil. If one country has way more than other there is a big incentive to try to get that money. Australians are not scamming Americans, Swedes are not scamming Americans. There is no incentive.

I agree that the scammers are scum. But you will solve nothing without changing the economic situation. I do not apologize them, in case you wonder. I am just being realistic that blaming individuals in a system with millions of people will solve nothing.

Why do so many rich people scam others? They're rich! It's certainly not because of lack of economic opportunities.

Some said in another reply it was common to say in the USSR if we paid the police more they'd stop being corrupt. To which the response was, if that's so then how come the politicians, being paid ever more, are still corrupt.

Doing bad has nothing to with being poor and everything to do with culture. A culture of entitlement, a culture of selfishness, a culture of lack of responsibility. To see what I mean, go to Japan, notice the poor don't steal. Why? Because it's not part of their culture. (PS: I'm not saying there is no crime in Japan nor am I saying there is no theft. I am saying that the poor general don't steal there, at least no compared to whatever places you're making excuses for).

The poor do not steal in India either. Do you know how many poor people there are in India? Do you know what miniscule percentage are scammers? You need to rethink how you see Indian culture.

Japan has a history with the untouchable. Again, access to jobs, access to economic opportunities, created the Yakuza.

Recommended to watch if you want to say that the system does not create criminals but it's a personal choice: https://youtu.be/SIsndKkasfI

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