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and people wonder why folks in not-very-far-out suburbs are buying and using starlink or other options, if all they have is ultra long loop length copper DSL and no DOCSIS3 available and no GPON or active ethernet fiber based service.

i've seen starlink terminals in places they have absolutely no logical need to be if the local terrestrial incumbent phone company and cable companies with rights to the ROW (right-of-way) would get off their asses

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lmao one of my mates has a starlink terminal in the outskirts of los angeles just to get work done because spectrum's gigabit plan is like 1.2MB/s upstream most of the time and in the subkilobytes during peak times

it's comical how bad this is

edit: how we found out about this was also amusing: he sent a group snapchat of the arrival and setup in backyard and we were all "did you move or go traveling?" "no, spectrum is godawful"

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