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> If you have kids, time is worth a lot.

I'm talking about 20 something tech bros, they had plenty of time.

Also, you can call the place in advance and just come to pick it up, no wait time

I understand that time is important but as some point you still have to go through life. Otherwise what's the ultimate goal ? Matrix style pod with automatic feeding, that's what peak efficiency would look like

Making a pizza with your kids can also be quite a nice experience, better than putting them in front of candy crush while you do unpaid extra hours for mega_corp_of_the_day

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> Also, you can call the place in advance and just come to pick it up, no wait time

Two way drive time, plus, depending on parenting situation, possibly needing to pile kids in and out and both ends, is not negligible time.

> I understand that time is important but as some point you still have to go through life.

Yes, and personally prepping every meal, or picking it up, is not the experience of life everyone wants to focus on. There's time to prep meals with the kids, or while they are home doing something else. There's time to pick something up for them. And there's time to schedule a pizza delivery that arrives about the same time as the babysitter. And lots of other things, that are sometimes right for some people.

> Making a pizza with your kids can also be quite a nice experience

Sure. But it is not necessarily the right choice every time you or they want to eat pizza.

> better than putting them in front of candy crush while you do unpaid extra hours for mega_corp_of_the_day

That's hardly the only reason to order pizza; holy false dichotomy, Batman.

Not everyone enjoys cooking. Not everyone enjoys food. And not everyone has oodles of spare time all the time. I love food, and I like cooking it sometimes. I also don’t get instant delivery, but mostly because the quality sucks. I get food delivered all the time because calling a place, picking it up and then going back home to eat it is a lot of time I would prefer to spend working or reading or doing literally anything else.

> Making a pizza with your kids can also be quite a nice experience,

Maybe the people who order pizza[1] have better experiences with their kid due to the time saved by ordering pizza.

If you're making pizza with the kid (or muffins, or anything really), it's not a 15m prep, it's at least 30m, usually more. You cannot rush things with kids.

[1] I make things with my kid, but I'm not snobbish about people who buy things to save time, and then spend their time with their kids differently.

> Making a pizza with your kids can also be quite a nice experience, better than putting them in front of candy crush while you do unpaid extra hours for mega_corp_of_the_day

Agreed, the problem is that making pizza with kids or just with your partner tends to be a lot of work and especially mess: preparing dough, wait until it rises, spreading the dough, slicing toppings, placing toppings while preventing the cats from snacking off the ham, put it in the oven, clean everything because EVERYTHING will be covered in flour, oil and tomato juice, eat, put out wastes to the compost bin...

It's one thing to do such a meal on a weekend where you actually have time, but after nine hours of work (8h+lunch break) and two hours average commute? Shit no, who got time for that?

(Side rant, we need lower working hours. 20 or 30 hours, not the 40 hours that were only made possible by having women as house keepers)

> preparing dough, wait until it rises, spreading the dough, slicing toppings, placing toppings

you can buy prepared dought and sliced ham. Beyong that either you have time to spend with kids or you don't - this couod one way to so that.

> preventing the cats from snacking off the ham

Thats the fun part

Not to forget that you need to be pretty sure you want to use the ham and cheese in next couple weeks... And if you don't it is pretty much wasted. Inventory management is restaurants problem. Which again makes life simpler.

> Also, you can call the place in advance and just come to pick it up, no wait time

I suspect both the orderer and order-taker are both a bit happier to have orders come in online instead of taking calls. It enables a bit more asynchrony and batching, and removes the potential for miscommunication.

Big advantage of moving food ordering online is that it's gotten rid of trying to read off an order through the phone to someone who barely speaks English, standing next to the phone in a loud kitchen with dishes clinking and people yelling in the background.

The order taker may not be all that much happier - those online front-ends see to charge sizeable fees.

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