Sometimes, hard lessons are necessary.
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Sorry. I am trying to engage with everyone here respectfully. I generally feel people who write like this have anger issues or purely dismissive. The later seems true if I read the answer carefully enough. I don't think I have made a personal affront to him to receive one. And the opinion is honest - writing like this unprovoked, is not okay & outside of HN guidelines anyway
I didn't. I never said 'f--koff' or 'you're a idiotic fanboy' or the likes. Commentor sides Musk strongly enough to dismiss a neutral & not-loaded opinion sufficiently with strongly worded tirade. I told 'writing like this isn't okay' on HN & you could possibly need help with a full disclaimer I am not being sarcastic. And you're faulting me?
Edit: What he said is at least true even if it's not nice sounding
Going strictly by company laws, what Musk is doing is absolutely wrong - starting with SEC episode to the latest dropping of acquisition after purchase agreement. It doesn't matter if Elon isn't my tea-time buddy. By the same yardstick everyone should stop commenting on HN because 99% of the things posted on forums aren't exactly about our work life although we somewhat/vaguely know it.
Please let us not engage in this fault finding & keep discussion civil and interesting. Quoting guidelines:
"Please don't post shallow dismissals, especially of other people's work. A good critical comment teaches us something"
If that doesn't come across unprovoked offensive, what else is. What have I written in OP to deserve such a scathing response. Why can't we keep discussion polite?
you're reading vitriol where I have none. It was a statement of fact followed by a statement of opinion. There was no vitriol involved except what you're projecting into it.
>maybe get some professional help.
Maybe now is a time to take a moment of deep self reflection and think how humbly you might suggest something, and who has vitriol
>Quoting guidelines
applies directly to your attempt to say that anyone who disagrees needs mental health. This should raise some deep questions of self reflection in you, rather than thinking that everyone else is shallow while your post is not.
There was nothing shallow about my post that your post is not equally if not more shallow.
As I said elsewhere, I am here to respectfully engage and learn something. Engaging with this post with you doesn't give me any new insight - neither on Twitter nor on common etiquettes.
given the multiple confirmations of this, it's possible that you don't realize the vitriol in your post, or mischaracterize it as not vitriol, or just are unwilling to admit to it to others or yourself
before you respond to this post, please ask yourself if you've internalized the critical feedback you've recieved from multiple users, and are not going to simply act defensive again
In fact it appears his offer to buy Twitter was not a well-researched and planned operation, it seems to have been something of a whim initially.
None of us can really know what he was thinking but for my part I think it is simple buyer's remorse. He didn't really consider the consequences of tying up his personal wealth in the deal, the potential to lose control of his other companies, nor how he would ever make his money back on Twitter itself. Perhaps he thought the bull market would erase all sins eventually anyway only to slam directly into a bear market wall.
Whatever the case his behavior seems erratic and unconsidered at times. As a shareholder I find that deeply disturbing. I would much rather he focus on running Tesla and SpaceX instead of trying to buy Twitter.
He’s certainly improved his position since a few months ago, when the Twitter board was discussing “poison pills” to stop his purchase of the company. Now, the same board is begging him to complete the purchase.
Also, there was a recent reminder from Musk’s legal team: as its largest shareholder, Musk has a greater financial stake in Twitter than the entire board combined.
You verbatim quoted the actual closing arguments of Rossman (representing Musk in the trial).
Just kidding. Yes, I wasn’t sure which document that was from and I didn’t want to use exact quotes without knowing. But I should have cited it (not that he’d mind), so I edited my post.
It was a smooth turn of phrase if you ask me. It helps that it’s the truth.
neither is the case
the same goes for your opinions you shared about "sabotage": unless you or he can prove that a majority of shareholders believe in such silly-sounding narratives, we can proceed as if they are untrue at best, and irrelevant to the contract elon signed at worst
Well for starters he didn’t want a Delaware venue and didn’t want an expedited trial. Lost on both. Doesn’t sound like someone who is in control of the situation.
>Now, the same board is begging him to complete the purchase.
A very interesting way of phrasing reality. “Asking a court to force Musk to adhere to the contract he signed an executed.”
If you don’t work in PR, you definitely should. You have a gift for it.
These are two separate incidents although commonly conflated. Poison pill is used to block a hostile takeover where the board has been taken by surprise, by diluting stake - which happened because Musk didnt disclose to SEC for long time he owned 14.4% of the Twitter.
After the things were in the light of the day, he didn't take up the position on Twitter board & instead offered to purchase controlling stake in Twitter (something which was not possible as a board member). The negotiations hence followed for purchase
Then, he has famously backed out of the Twitter deal in bad faith & disparaged it publicly. Twitter is also beholden to its investors. They have every right not to tank their market cap because a rich guy got whimsical
"Begging" is definitely not the best word choice here. This is a lot less, "Oh, please, please, pleeeeeease Mr. Musk, please pay us, pretty please?" and a lot more, "Alright, we're tired of you fucking around. It's time for you climb out of your sandbox and hold up your end of the deal."
How is that relevant to the contract Elon signed and now wants to renege on?