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I really think the long term way for any of us in a similar position is to found our own company or build our own dream as we see it. I don't like working for anyone either.

I have no sympathy for myself that I've so far failed to have a big hit among the 7 or 8 startup apps and sites I've built in my spare time while working corporate jobs. How am I supposed to have sympathy for someone who isn't even trying, just because wages are shit and they don't get a lot of vacation? Who cares? I've worked some of the shittiest jobs in America. I can bitch as much as anyone else.

People like me not losing hope in my own ability to one day launch something that will make us fuck-you rich from our garage - even if most of us never will - is an essential driver of innovation and overall economic well being. And people who say it's impossible disgust me, because they're essentially just lazy

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Despite having failed 7 or 8 times you think the only thing stopping the average person from becoming fuck you rich is laziness? Your solution is for everyone to found their own companies and succeed? Isn't this attitude just a restating of 'pull yourself up by the bootstraps'? Most people are not capable of what you are suggesting but that doesn't mean they don't deserve reasonable pay and healthcare.

Also, to expand on that in a different way: Most businesses require real up-front investment and significant time to operate, so failing even once means at best losing all your seed money and at worst going broke.

> found our own company

This doesn't scale.

The comment you replied to stated facts about structural issues in society. Starting your own company isn't going to fix any of that.

People who support their faimiler through full-time jobs are lazy? I guess you've never met the benefit kings/queens and full-time alcoholics that live in my neighborhood. That would've calibrated your laziness meter.

I've worked in social services, benefit kings/queens are a thing, but they are only a small visible part of the picture. It is incredibly uncharitable to call alcoholics lazy. These are people who very often have very difficult base struggles. It is an extreme luxury to be at a point where you can easily have a well paying stable job, not to mention the freedom and received ability to "create a startup," and to top it off, expect success. To look at all this with a self serving perspective, well that's laziness.

Many alcoholics I know are just leeching money off state and their families. Their main struggle is that they can't stop drinking.

Others are honorable and work (at least intermittently) to support their addiction. One guy is an oceanic ship captain, who work fixed-term contracts, and is 100% sober during them (one infraction would end his career). But, once he's back from the contract, he stops on the first gas station on route from the port to his home, buys a bottle of vodka and drinks it on the spot. This shows that controlling alcoholism is partially a matter of willpower and motivation.

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