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The entire point of this discussion is that we should be able to discuss it, and discouraging it is not a solution. You're supporting my point, not refuting it.

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I'm not attempting to refute you per se, just bringing relevant info into the discussion. It's instructive (at least to me) to look through those links to older comments. People as far back as 2007 were saying "HN is becoming reddit."

I get that quoting a request on the site info page could come across as modding you, but that wasn't my intent.

I haven't read through all of those but did want to add that it may be warranted to have this discussion ("is HN becoming reddit?") at different points in time as both communities have changed a lot since 2007 - i.e. its possible that HN was becoming what reddit was in 2007, and again in 2012 or something, and again in 2022.

It might be an interesting conversation to have: has HN trailed Reddit over time in some of its more negative aspects? The guidelines dismissing this I think is wrong.

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