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Just to say that we're actively switching away from retool because you insist on charging £10 a month users who are a simply view form thats already built. I can understand charging for building and launching a form, I can understand charging something for a view only, but the same as builder? na I think not. Good luck with your pricing

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A long time ago, I was at their offices and I asked them about this. If this is a limiter for you, I'm sure you could get a customized pricing plan from them if you reach out.

I believe AppSmith is a FOSS alternative, otherwise.

Yes Appsmith, Tooljet and Budibase are great FOSS alternatives.

Thanks for mentioning Budibase. I'm the cofounder and I'd like to add one or two points.

On top of Retools functionality, Budibase also comes with an automation platform, internal db and a lot more flexibility when it comes to design and deployment.

Here's our GitHub repo for anyone interested: https://github.com/Budibase/budibase

#devtoolsshouldbeopensource

It's certainly not a cheap SaaS, but if you get enough value out of it - it makes sense. For your use-case, it sounds like it doesn't scale and you can't justify the pricing structure they've setup.

The best thing you can do is what you've already done. Post about it publicly, let your AE know.

Hope Appsmith, Budibase, Tooljet, Bubble, et al work out!

I'm sorry; we are actively working on our pricing model right now. (We today launched a 5-seats-for-free plan: https://retool.com/blog/new-free-plan-2022/.) I think charging for end-users does make sense, but we need to think about exactly how much (as you note). Thank you for your feedback!

Oh, while we are actively thinking about pricing, if Retool is out of budget for you, please do reach out to david AT. We are always happy to be flexible on price; our goal is to convince more people that Retool is a better way for building CRUD software, not to maximize revenue. We never want pricing to a blocker for anybody. (Reaching out to me is obviously not a long-term solution, but is a good one while we think about what our future pricing plans look like.)

I think charging for end users does make sense too in the context of building internal tools, it just means that other use cases (e.g. building public apps) is not possible.

Love retool! This new 5-seat plan will mean we can get started with Retool internally properly now on a trial basis, and hopefully upgrade in the future when we decide to roll it out!

(Although there do seem to be some bugs with the new plan - it keeps repeatedly telling me that i'm not licenced to edit things and that my trial is over so I can't quite start using it yet).

Also I can't use it for my personal projects as the commercial model doesn't quite work, so I use AppSmith for that.

Hi there, super happy the new Free plan would work well for you!

I’d try visiting our billing page under settings/billing and see if you can select the free plan from there. If that doesn’t work, send me a note at antony@retool.com and we’d be happy to fix this.

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