Steven Bartlett has a really insightful with Tom Blomfield about this [1], and then also with Starling CEO Anne Boden [2]. While I'm generally not a great fan of his podcast, these two I found to be fascinating.
[1] https://podcasts.apple.com/dk/podcast/e86-monzo-ceo-on-death...
[2] https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/e107-starling-bank-bui...