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I think the new Zenfone 9 might be what you're after. One handed size (5.9"), almost stock Android, flagship specs, decent cameras, headphone jack.

I'd be buying one if my phone died today.

https://www.asus.com/uk/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-9/

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How many years of security updates? the whole reason I need to replace my pixel 3a is because they stopped giving security updates. If I buy another phone and its only good for 2 more years I'm sort of shooting myself in the foot. I do like the overall ideas behind it, and 3.5mm I definitely want.

That's a good point. Asus usually say two major Android versions but as 13 is on the brink of release, it might be a shorter window than usual.

Why do you need security updates so often and so bad? I dont know what websites or apps you install, but normally there shouldn't be any problems with normal use even without security updates. And even then, you can always install a custom rom instead of having to buy another one.

>Why do you need security updates so often and so bad?

not sure if serious or i just dont understsnd your brand of sarcasm.

i dont want a custom rom i want security patches for the life of the phone, whixh is longer than the 3 years i got.

It's a commonly defended-to-the-death trope in certain internet crowds that if you just "browse carefully and don't install bad stuff" your device is unlikely to be compromised.

Probably not true now, if it ever was.

These days people’s entire financial life is on the phone with all the banking apps, emails, password managers, MFA etc. We cannot afford to be lax on security in any way whatsoever.

No security update will ever compensate for the average person's lack of digital hygiene. It's mostly smokescreen and fear management.

Send your _old_ Pixels my way. I'll put LineageOS on and enjoy them a few more years.

The custom ROM is only going to have (at best) the security patches that have come from upstream manufacturer.

Security is more important than you're framing it here.

Thanks!

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