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What do you mean we send them away? Should we hold them against their will? If they want to stay there are ways to stay.

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I am not sure if you are responding with actual information or just anecdata. There are hundreds of thousands of students who actually want to work in the US but are unable to (and are sent back) because of H1B Visa lotteries and archaic green card processes.

I'm not saying the US immigration system is perfect but there were apparently 855,000 new naturalized citizens in 2021. Somebody is figuring it out.

Also- the US doesn't owe everybody a citizenship.

Majority of them are family based as opposed to employment based, so your point is invalid

How much of a majority?

Roughly 14% of the naturalized citizens were in the employment category.

https://www.uscis.gov/citizenship-resource-center/naturaliza...

So 119,700? That's a lot. Does that count naturalized citizens that came for employment but brought their family?

No, relatively speaking, it's not a lot. Yeah, it's a big number in a vacuum, but comparatively it's dwarfed by other countries we should want to compete with.

There's over a million foreigners in school.

I had a friend with a CS degree ask if I would marry her because she didn't want to go back to China and couldn't get an H1B.

119,700 isn't a lot in the context of overall immigration and the number of immigrants who come here to study and for employment. The number also includes the immediate family of the recipient (spouse + children), which would be about 2/3 or 1/2 of the 119,700.

Right, but this number is very low compared to Canada's 250k, considering the USA has 10x the population of Canada

167k for Australia (US has almost 13x the population of Australia)

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