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I see Brave. I close tab. I don't trust them or anybody that pushes their offerings which are just crypto ponzi schemes.

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I thought Brave was just a web browser with built-in adblock, but after your comment I decided to look it up on wikipedia. Holey moley, what a nightmare.

It's by far the best browser out there. Based on Chromium. Doesn't allow websites to abuse its technical capabilities (i.e. share your data via 3rd party ad servers). You can tip content creators. You can partake in the community and all the things Brave is building, or just use the browser in its default state. If you want a crypto + search laughing stock, check out https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/presearch/ .

Depends on your definition of "best browser" I guess...

My best browser is Firefox, precisely because it is not based on Chromium.

Same. I wonder what the web would look like now if not for Mozilla fighting for open web standards.

I guess I don't really have to wonder. I could just factory reset any Pixel phone, swipe to the news feed, and click on any story. It's literally hard to find the content (drivel) between the advertisements and screen hijacking bullshit.

yeah, multiple times i have asked people "why isnt brave a fork of firefox" and they say "its pita" and you need quick and easy way to customize, blah blah blah.

then you have half a dozen firefox forks running absolutely fine, each one has its good and bad but the thing is, if these 1-2 man outfits can fork and release their own firefox forks with additional features/customizations, why cant brave? or do they don't want to do the actual leg work and only want to take praise for "doing best", eh

They detail the reasons for moving to Chromium https://brave.com/development-plans-for-upcoming-release/ . I was also disappointed at first, but the benefits seem to be worth it, such as use of Chrome extensions.

sorry for not responding earlier..... my initial question still remains.

there is a "The benefits of moving from Muon to Chromium" so if you replace the word chromium with firefox, do you think any line would be wrong or a lie?

extensions are available in firefox just as easily so that sounds like a lame excuse.

Firefox + uBlock Origin is still superior to Brave's ad blocker though. Brave can't use uBlock Origin on mobile.

It's just a different revenue model than the usual ad garbage. You don't have to use it.

By using it, you make it relevant by increasing its market share, and therefore you support and promote the scam.

I understand that HN hates crypto but calling everything a ponzi scheme is just absurd. They just made a currency to pay users with.

The home made currency is the ponzi scheme.

I don't see how it's a scam or ponzi scheme. It's completely opt in. You don't put in any money yourself. There is no referral nonsense.

It's just a little token they pay you with should you decide to turn on ads. It's actually a rather interesting cryptocurrency given that it's actually being used for something.

BAT is even traded at Binance. At the height of the cryptocurrency bull market, it was worth almost 2 US dollars.

The crypto stuff is disabled by default, get a new talking point.

a deliberate ponzi enabling mechanism shouldn't even be available

at least they put the safety on before throwing you the gun

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