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Moved away from 1password a long time back. 1password 5 was the last good product. Then they raised a bunch of money and went the usual VC route of losing control of the company.

Bitwarden is a superior replacement in every way.

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> Bitwarden is a superior replacement in every way

I'm going to regret sticking my nose into this, because BW is the Internet's darling, but that is demonstrably untrue unless one's password management needs are extremely simple

One can dislike AgileBits as a business all they like, but BW has a long way to go before it's a superior replacement

Maybe I should clarify. My experience with BW has been as a personal password manager. And it is superior to 1P in that category.

Which features is BitWarden missing?

Not a feature per se, but I've found that Bitwarden is less reliable at identifying password fields in apps and web pages than LastPass. Last time I used 1password it was still called 1passwd so I'm probably not qualified to compare against them.

That said I still like BW enough to be a subscriber.

I was purposefully steering clear of a laundry list, cause it comes up so often I'm tired of typing it, and also I'm trying to get out of the "try and convince people to switch" game. If you like BW, I'm glad for you, and that I don't have to use it. I paid for BW so that I can fairly evaluate their product every so often, and my experience is that they just have a lack of attention to detail that I don't enjoy when entrusting my passwords and day-to-day UX to them

I do hope they succeed, and I'm glad vaultwarden exists, but in my line of work execution matters and they have not yet demonstrated that they care about execution to the same degree that 1P does

I don't use either - I used Keepass and sync the key file amongst my devices. It doesn't have a lot of the features that other password managers have, but it's simple, open-source and works well enough for me.

Yeah, I would have to agree.

I am a Bitwarden premium user for my personal password management, but we use 1Password business at work.

Some things Bitwarden is missing:

    - Integration with biometric auth on Linux
    - SSH key types & SSH agent integration
    - API token types
    - Equivalent to `op run --` in their CLI client
    - Shared vault / folder management in Bitwarden is clunky, 
    especially with CLI

I'm sure there's more, but this comes off the top of my head. It has a lot going for it, but small things (especially with the CLI tool) make it hard to say it's superior in every facet.

I love Bitwarden, but they very clearly employ fewer people and have fewer features.

I might argue these are niche features and best served by more complex password managers compensated to serve a smaller audience. Your average user needs somewhere safe to store a url, username, and password tuple (and perhaps safely share those to others). Business users should be using SSO, role assumption, and a vaulting solution as a last resort.

Hmmmm. Are you advocating that Bitwarden was feature-complete and should never build these things out of the product they have? Because things like SSO, role assumption, sharing, etc. are already part of their business offering.

What I'm complaining about above is the claim:

    Bitwarden is a superior replacement in every way.

which I'll add, was compared to 1Password 5. Certainly that may be true for the grandparent poster, but I've put various features that exist in 1Password 8 (as a current user) that are missing in Bitwarden.

I'm happy to disagree and say that if you want a product that only does vault storage, and neglects all business or non-user/pass combo needs - great, you can have that. But to suggest somehow that Bitwarden is that product and should remain so - well I'm afraid you're not looking at their business model. They already have SSO options (see https://bitwarden.com/products/business/), audit & compliance, etc. I am being very frank about features that are missing from Bitwarden today that actual customers are looking for.

I’m advocating for not building features if they’re not going to drive meaningful amounts of revenue. Let your competitor waste their resources doing so.

I’m confused, so you’re saying BW is superior in every way because they don’t have features that don’t drive meaningful revenue?

Your response to the commenter who pointed out ways in which BW is inferior was to ignore the user benefit and say they don’t drive even revenue.

I switched to BitWarden for a while when it looked like 1Password was going to be in-browser only as the future on macOS, and one of the major things for me was it making logging in to multiple Google accounts harder than 1Password - it seemed to always be presenting the wrong password as a default, whereas 1Password would just get it right. Google drives me mad with the number of times they'll ask me to reauthenticate in FF.

I'm sure that story has improved since then, but it was frustrating enough for me to switch back again.

I agree, Bitwarden is not there yet;

Also migration from 1Password to Bitwarden was a mess when i did it about a year ago. For example, it removed all file attachments - without even mentioning it! (which i didn't notice right away, which could have easily resulted in data loss.) The migration of all the "fields" in an item of course can't be done exactly one-on-one, which resulted in a huge mess.

I too hate the Electron versions of 1Password though. Profit seems more important than quality to them lately.

I'm currently slowly migrating all passwords to Bitwarden/KeepassXC. Hopefully Desktop browser integration will improve.

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