US is scared.
What I am calling for: closer ties and negotiations and collaborative work.
The first step when you find yourself in a hole is to stop digging. Too late for that now, I have to admit.
You mean that the point of no return is already passed and that there is no reason to try to calm down things using diplomacy and cooperation, that it's purely on a power level that there is the solution ?
That kind of cooperation and diplomacy is called coercion and incitement.
The problem is, China and India have grown up now and they are going to behave like adults. And how do adult role models behave in the century XXI? Afghanistan, Lybia, Iraq, that's how.
Meanwhile, Kuril islands: contested by Japan but 70 years under Russian administration.
> any sign of appeasing would be positive
...yada yada doomed to repeat yada yada...
EDIT: Oh I think I get it, you want more cooperation, peace, among humans/countries etc.
Yeah, most people want it, but in today's world, it is increasingly unlikely.
On one hand, I don't like the fact that Western world emphasizes diversity and multiculturalism too much. We are too different, and forcing everyone to accept everyone is just pipe dream. At one point my values will clash with someone else's. I think fences, borders, are good. Deglobalization is good, slower economy is good. Just make sure we don't invade one another (I know, also pipe dream).
I also quite admire Xi Jinping. He is a dictator, and knows that he serves his country, an ethnic nation. He doesn't pretend to care about other ethnic minorities or other nations. He made China great. Hopefully China doesn't invade other countries, and prefer to be defensive.
In short: fences make good neighbors, let's all slow down on (forced) diversity and multiculturalism, let's all go back to our own fences, and cooperate from within the fences. We can visit our neighbors sometimes, have a good laugh, and after that we go home to our own fences.
Cooperation is overrated. I'd settle with peaceful coexistence. It is heaven on Earth.
I don't seek downvote, but I know I will be downvoted for this opinion, just make sure you squint to read the light colored comments.
I'm maybe too dreamy, but I feel we are all prisoners on Earth, until we reach another planet.
And I believe game theory shows that prisoners are better collaborating ;)
As an entrepreneur, if I'd be running NVidia (or just investor in $NVDA), I'd be extremely annoyed that I am forbidden to sell my products to a large market, just because of political pressure.
Regarding your solutions and analysis, I don't know much about China politics other than gifs or memes that I saw on reddit, so I cannot say :D
China is the only old civilization that still strive today. As a country, they are really big. It takes tremendous amount of leadership to bring China to what it is today.
Yes the memes about China are true, like the Uyghur Muslims treatment, the police state etc. But despite all of these, despite the lack of diversity, despite the lack of Western values, they still made great progress. It shows that a nation doesn't need diversity and multiculturalism to be strong.
I'm fine with diversity and multiculturalism, I just prefer the fenced version of it.
To tell the truth, I am scared of China too (and I am scared of their influence and power over my home country, I currently reside in the US). But I respect their strength.
i doubt that is actually true - the old chinese civilization is long gone. It's like saying that the american indian civilization is still here today.
> they still made great progress
they did - and to obtain that progress, they had to open up to world trade, to become part of the international community, and to cooperate.
It's proof that free market and international trade is not zero sum, and that all parties benefit.
But now that progress has been made, the chinese gov't seems to want to usurp more - both politically as well as economically. They desire the advances that their western trade partners enjoy, but don't desire the political freedom, and self-determination that would also come with such advances.
I think the US is not in a good strategic position to overcome china economically, unfortunately. The fact that the US has resorted to politically motivated bans like that is a clear sign. And china has progressed enough that i dont believe such bans will be effective at all - at most it will slow down the progress by about a couple years.
Native American Indian didn't speak English, got obliterated by European settlers, their culture and their language destroyed. The American Indians have zero continuity today. They are a lost people. The Chinese was and still is the same, the Han. Despite Mongol and Japan's invasion, they still retained their culture, their buildings, their language, and their genetic make up.
> they did - and to obtain that progress, they had to open up to world trade, to become part of the international community, and to cooperate.
> It's proof that free market and international trade is not zero sum, and that all parties benefit.
I agree. Hence why they showed that a nation can become strong without forcing diversity. They just stick to their own self, their own culture, and generally absorb world's technology, research, and information. In today's free flow of information, we don't need diversity and multiculturalism.
Although, I argue that diversity and multiculturalism has zero correlation with why US is a strong nation. US is a strong nation simply because this land is abundant, rich, has a lot of river, geographically advantageous, and largely left alone when the whole world was fighting.
> But now that progress has been made, the chinese gov't seems to want to usurp more - both politically as well as economically. They desire the advances that their western trade partners enjoy, but don't desire the political freedom, and self-determination that would also come with such advances.
Yeah, I can understand why the Chinese govt want that. If I were the Chinese govt, I would think the same too. If I were an average Chinese citizen, I'd want the opposite.
> I think the US is not in a good strategic position to overcome china economically, unfortunately. The fact that the US has resorted to politically motivated bans like that is a clear sign. And china has progressed enough that i dont believe such bans will be effective at all - at most it will slow down the progress by about a couple years.
Yeah, totally agree.
Han Chinese is the biggest Chinese ethnic make up.
That’s not what you said.
> Han Chinese is the biggest Chinese ethnic make up.
Didn’t say they weren’t.
Thank you generous Western nation. I hope my contribution, my taxes, my hard work benefits you.
One day I will go back home. I won’t be part of you anymore.
When that time comes, I hope you’ll leave us alone in our own affairs and don’t invade us or bomb us anymore.
Sincerely, A very hard working immigrant who could outwork most of your citizens, who just want to be left alone and prefer peace.
Enjoy encountering millions of people like me in this world. The silent majority.
Often times I wonder why Westerners never really learn that they shouldn't impose their way of life to the rest of the world.
Then I look at social media, and forum like this. I understand.
They still have their superiority complex, deep down to the bone.
> Sincerely, A very hard working immigrant who could outwork most of your citizens
The irony thickens
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/x332z...
See the evil in your people first before judging others.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Damnthatsinteresting/comments/x332z...
See the evil in your people first before judging others.
US already has inside chaos (and will get way way, way way, way way worse), don't need to worry about other countries chaos.
You should look at the GDP per capita of the US compared to literally every other country in the last 10 years.
i dont think it's wrong to compare the US to IBM. The GDP per capita is high still because the returns from investments made many decades ago (in fact, almost a century ago!) are bearing fruit. I'm talking about highways, infrastructure and research/development.
But those investments will eventually be completely consumed. So what investments are being made today that would replace it?
IBM was still very profitable when their downfall began.