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I always search these threads for references to dart/flutter.

I'm a beginner in this area. I'm going to be creating a simple app soon. I would like it to run on desktop and mobile, not the web, and don't want to have to create 2-3 different versions. I'm looking at dart/flutter.

I'm not adverse to PWA but due to limited integration with the underlying OS I have kind of ruled out the web because I don't want to run a website for this.

Dart/flutter hardly ever gets mentioned on HN and when it does its generally not well received. So my question is what's the issues? My probably naive view is dart/flutter is the way to go.

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I was considering using Flutter for a simple Android app, but app size is just unreasonably huge, as it includes Dart runtime. Funny enough, the hybrid web app approach, e.g. using CapacitorJS to package web app to apk weighs a lot less, in some cases it might be even smaller than native app (considering it is using androidx dependencies). Another problem was, that I have to learn whole new language - Dart, which is not used anywhere else. YMMW, my own experiences should not stop you from trying out a new framework, maybe it will just work for you just fine.

One of my issues, as a beginner, with attempting to create a cross platform app with web technologies is: what to go for? Where do you start?

Cordova, React native, Etc.

Which ones are best? Dart/flutter seem to offer everything. Though I have heard there are size issues with the resultant program.

There's Flet for Flutter apps written in Python: https://flet.dev

Google isn't known to be a good long term supplier of dev tools. Risks for adopting Flutter are fairly large. I've heard reports from some experienced devs that it has a "primary" vs "secondary" platform effect, and is simply less mature and involves more obstacles than an HTML5/CSS/JS based app.

Yeah its not ideal tgat google develop dart/flutter. I tend not to touch anything google for obvious reasons.

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