Imagine we had a children's book that would convey these facts in a manner kids understand more easily.
And yet we hide these facts from children and we tell them to eat meat and drink milk because they need it for protein etc, even if they don't want to - happened to me and countless others (online reports).
Don't you think a child would get traumatized by the sight of a cow being shot in the head and being cut open and the guts falling out - sometimes the animal is still alive and its eyes are rolling. It's a horror show.
If a grown man (Mike Bisping - ex MMA fighter) couldn't last longer than 2 weeks working in a slaughterhouse because it's a madhouse - do you think children could stomach watching videos of that environment?
Slaughterhouse workers suffer from PTSD - some say they had to suppress their compassion to carry out the killing.
Can you elaborate?
Agenda.
- environmental destruction, biodiversity loss, Amazon destruction, overfishing etc
- causes PTSD in some slaughterhouse workers
- animals lead a miserable life and die horribly.
That's not a view but a fact.
There is a reason why kids are not being shown the reality of this.
Would you show your kid slaughterhouse scenes from this documentary - https://www.nationearth.com/ ?
Ok. The rest of it is a view!
So what I'm saying is that if we would talk to our kids about this or show them the realities of factory farms and slaughterhouses and show them that there are alternatives that don't involve all that destruction - then my view is most kids would instinctively choose the option that doesn't involve killing and making animals suffer.
I'm not saying we have to force kids - but instead give them the facts and let them decide.
But we are not doing it, since we know the reality of factory farming and slaughterhouses is grim.
Even a lot of adults can't look at that footage.
As Paul McCartney said - if slaughterhouses were made of glass and people could look into it - many would be horrified.
1) discuss a list of item 2) "hidden purpose" - which is a negative connotation.
If you mean point 2 then how is discussing with kids the facts and showing the reality of factory farming a hidden purpose?
Are you saying kids should not know what they are eating and how it's being produced?
Are you saying kids should not know what they are eating and how it's being produced?
Basically ou're saying we should hide facts from children.
How else can I interpret your answer?
If I go a step further, I could say you're following an agenda, i.e. don't tell kids that they are eating those cute animals they read about in their childrens books - because otherwise they might change their mind.
The fact that you can't answer the simple question I raised in my post above is quite telling.
Vegan = reduce suffering and cruelty to other sentient beings as practically as possible. So this means the only justification for killing an animal to consume its flesh is when our survival depends on it. That is not the case anymore for the majority of people.
My premise is around the large scale factory farm industry, which not only causes immense suffering and cruelty, but also causes great pollution and environmental destruction.
Feeding the whole world with meat is not sustainable.
That's not moving the goalpost, but a fact (See UN, IPPC and various other reports).
Like how India does it. There used to be a documentary on netflix on this. The greatest density of animals and humans, where both help each other survive.
I was asking you whether you meant that breeding more animals for slaughter would solve our high carbon footprint in the animal agriculture industry?
If yes - then it doesn't make sense, since the science community agrees we need to reduce meat and dairy consumption not increase it.
And a lot of people in India are vegetarian.
> lot of people in india are vegetarian.
Not really. Majority are not vegetarian. only Gujurat is Majority vegetarian. Every where else they are a minority. They have made it a purpose of life to feed wild animals, and live with wild animals. It's quite fascinating.
Raising more animals will mean more resources are required, such as land, water etc. It's more efficient to use that land and use that water to grow food for us.
So are you saying the scientific community is wrong by saying that the world needs to reduce meat & dairy consumption?