Maybe not, but the predictions on this have tended to do linear extrapolation of a clearly exponential trend. Things like this:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DAXDEAYXgAA7up_.jpg
We won't be exponential forever, an S-curve will show up eventually but the conservative estimates are not even close.
> and to become a large % of the grid will also need to come with gigantic storage projects
This isn't really true. There are already grids with 60%+ renewables without any storage projects to speak of. Large grids already have a lot of diversity and the existing hydro is already a big buffer.
> Lots of pumped back hydro? Trillion dollar projects, and we have water crises all over, so we can't just dam up any river that it is convenient to do it either.
Most of the time those kinds of estimates are predicated on the assumption that we must produce exactly what we consume and thus storage needs grow exponentially. If you have a really really cheap source of power (right now solar) and your problem is that you can't store it, just overproducing it is a better solution. The reality is that we will do a mix of many things but all the simulations I've seen show this to be well within even our current technology and cost. Most claim the total cost of the resulting energy goes down not up.
It sometimes comes to people as a surprise how little solar / wind is actually installed and that the production mostly follows the peaks in daily consumption.
Basically, the idea is that if we go installing new renewables at current speeds, we won't need any real battery storage for years.
Texas isn't really a state known for building hydropower.
Well here's a prediction of how they'd do if they could store a small amount of hydrocarbons made from green energy. 3 hours of battery storage.
And if they can't handle the flexible gas, a few more batteries would do it. 12 hours.
I mean they could just run a gas plant and capture the carbon as the oil industry has been claiming they will, but that would be cheating wouldn't it. We need that last watt of power to be pure and green or else the massive amount of money saving renewables that Texas has already installed doesn't count.
The link I gave you goes into extreme detail on this and is based on historical data of exactly how often such windless nights occur and what the Texas grid demands overnight.
It then works out the cheapest combination of solar/wind/battery/etc.
Was what I responded to.
Do you think Texas has anywhere we could store some hydrocarbons?
I don't even think that report is optimistic enough, Green Hydrogen production and EVs as demand response and some grid connections will solve the issue cheaper, but I don't want to blow anyones mind, so you've got to meet them halfway with an in-depth accounting of how the vast majority of Texas energy use could be renewable with ease at a low cost.
Failing that if you can find a way to line some politicians pockets in the process, that could work.
It is apparently hard to sell this to certain political groups, who get their funding from more expensive sources of energy, but the truth has a way of making itself known when money can be earned and/or saved.
The lazard LCOE reports give figures for running costs of existing fully deprecated plants to compare with the cost of new renewables.
See page 7 "Levelized Cost of Energy Comparison—Renewable Energy versus Marginal Cost of Selected Existing Conventional Generation"
https://www.lazard.com/media/451905/lazards-levelized-cost-o...
https://newatlas.com/energy/sand-battery-polar-night/
https://scitechdaily.com/gridscale-storing-renewable-energy-...
The problem isnt so much the scale or cost, just the amount of time it takes to commission and build them. You can deploy a solar farm in months, but pumped storage is like building a dam. It takes several years.
There also isnt a lot of point to storage unless you turn the gas off sometimes and I think we basically never do even at the sunniest and windiest. Not yet.
We should have been preparing for this for years rather than letting Putin pull the rug out from under our feet.
Europe is essentially already using the alps as a battery.
Not to be that guy, but one does have to wonder what European leaders were thinking was going to happen after sanctioning a major source of their oil and natural gas.
There's some articles going over the numbers for Snowy 2 and it'll probably be a bad investment overall.