Most of what you read on the internet is written by insane people (2018)
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In my experience, any subreddits with general appeal suffer from the same problem. Just find your niche/hobby subs and stick to them. Stay away from r/pics, news, etc...
You can still have tiny kings in small subs - mods with <10k members who let that "power" go to their heads - but it is more rare.
That’s pretty much what I figured as well, and the only way to get value from Reddit.
Unsub all the defaults and only stay in your bubble. Sad but it’s a dumpster fire otherwise.
Its actually scary how many people online seem to fit that description.
First, my partner is a highschool math teacher and in his casual surveys and discussions, most students don't use reddit: tiktok still dominates. The ones that do, mostly boys, just watch fight and war videos. Girls apparently are into makeup videos. News to me.
Second, I'm in my 50's and there's no way teenagers are interested in political discussions. Maybe they are, but the people I get in flame wars with speak and act like angry adults: their rages and complaints would require too much effort for a teenager to fabricate.
I think the truth is Reddit is mostly adults but for some reason lots of adults want to believe it is just teenagers, possibly because we act like children online sometimes?
pretty much describes how I used reddit as a teenager.
There are the default front-page subreddits, that attract "the masses."
Then there's everything else, and each of those subreddits has its own moderation team and culture. They range from trash to gold. Generalizing about these is almost always off-base.
Unless you're on /r/teenagers, then a startlingly large percentage of commenters are much much older and are probably grooming.
Let's not think that we on HN are much better
The response I got? "Lol people have been saying China's going to collapse for decades and it hasn't happened yet lol" Oh and I got downvoted while that response got up-voted. I basically became a full time lurker in reddit after that experience. Complete waste of 15 minutes typing out an actual argument.
Contrast that to HN where even when people have a misinformed argument they at least make an effort to engage, and I've actually been put in my place a few times with new information/well reasoned arguments that weren't just pulled out of someone's ass.
I once tried to get into a debate on reddit about
whether China was the next rising superpower
Some subreddits are goldmines for particular topics. I know at least one that's pretty good for that sort of discussion.But in general, it's best to take the temperature (ie, lurk) a bit in a particular subreddit before even attempting such a thing.
The default subreddits are uh, let's say, flippant at best.
And the mod also clarified she works 20+ hours/week in addition to being a full-time student, which is hardly a loser-teenager stereotype being peddled here. She clearly had no media training and the folks at Fox took advantage of that, though.
And in the grand scheme of HN that's really not that much. We have people who have actual legitimate accomplishments like creating widely used software or founding businesses.
If I remember correctly the popular sentiment on r/antiwork re: the mod's appearance on Fox was more along the lines of oh god why but I'm not certain.
sounds a lot more like the guy has hired a staff of reviewers that he pays to post under his name (and he obviously could be receiving money from publishers or hired publicity companies to do so) , rather than he is an insane person reading 3000 books a year. Not so much "insane" as "has yet another shady internet business".
> If the reviews are adding value (and according to the OP they seem to be), is it much shadier than the Paris Review or the New York Review of Books?
yes because the source producing the review is bogus in this case. Reading book reviews from your (assumed to be a non-famous literary critic!) brother in law vs. a famous book reviewer are two different kinds of value add.
This actually reminds me of "Richard Bachman" which was Steven King using a pen name and fake picture which I think was striving for the opposite effect.
I would say that is lame, but the actual writer's name is still there. it's not untraceable like a random profile on the internet. When we see these celebrity books that are written by someone else, I dont think there's any confusion among those who actually care to know, that "book X was written by a ghost writer". if celebrity X is claiming, "I wrote that book myself!" when they didn't, they are lying, and yes that is bad.
One development that is new is the one where reviews and encyclopedia entries are written by people seemingly detached from reality. That's a sobering thought for anyone looking for factual answers.
The traditional entertainments always have a profit-motive. They cannot publish anything too insane as they worry it might unduly effect profits. So there’s at least some gatekeeping and some critical apparatus that is not quite peer review but that at least provides some critical filter and dampening mechanism, even the most morally deplorable entertainers often tried to keep the unsavory aspects of their lives off the stage because they understood the potential dangers of alienating audiences once the truth of their morales came to the surface.
The internet has a far different structure and the motives for creators differ. A profit motive still exists, but other factors are more prevalent. In fact, I’d argue that the internet has allowed views previously considered more fringe to make their way into the more rigid systems of traditional television etc. since the success of radical views on the internet has convinced the traditional media that such radical views are not in fact a harm to profit motive but may actually increase profits (you can see this most clearly in the increasing radicalism of the views expressed by political television pundits, who by the way, often go so far as to reference views espoused online)
Power laws are everywhere. Why isn't there a field dedicated to studying these social/psychological archetypes? Like: what kinds of people are most likely to write the comments we read, what kinds of people are more likely to become politicians, what kinds of people are more likely to seek "Trust & Safety jobs" at social media companies, or become journalists, etc. Groups cluster, and no "influential" group (defining influencial liberally) is representative or free of bias. There's a lot of insights to be gained in this kind of "meta-thinking" about society. This would be far more insightful than basic observations about gender or race ratios, and would highlight far deeper divisions within society, which could help address them.
Unfortunately, subsequent academics have viewed Foucault’s work as a complete theoretic and used it as an instrument to apply to other areas rather than continue and extend the study of power itself.
"Fanatical" might be a truer word.
Tone, speed of speech, or lack of speech is how she communicates her feelings.
Words themselves are usually meaningless.
Now and then she’ll slow down and have a real conversation.
Her sister is exact opposite. Will tell you in no in uncertain terms what her thoughts and feelings are. No ambiguity.
> my current theory is that the biggest "threat" on the internet is people believing what they read represents the actual views of average citizens. It's not.
The other more plausible and sinister explanation is that they are simply front's for organisations through which many people contribute to carefully manipulate online perception through legitimate looking user accounts. This would explain the high volume and yet high quality - compared to spam bot reviews which are low effort reposts or simple automatic rephrasing of a pool of content. Instead it would be manually crafted output, by many individuals, spinning a consistent and genuine sounding individual "character".
I've searched HN for info on specific things before, only to see that in the comments of one of the posts, there's the little orange asterisk showing me that this is my comment. I'm even feeding into this cycle right now...
As long as I don't spend too much time on HN outside of work mornings, I'll consider myself fine.
>>Edit: I guess my tone-projection is off. A lot of people seem to be put-off by my usage of the word "insane." I intended that as tongue-in-cheek and did not mean to imply that any of them literally have diagnosable mental illnesses. I have a lot of respect for all of the individuals I listed and they seem like nice people, I was just trying to make a point about how unusual their behavior is.
I would classify them as eccentric rather than that term.
My only advice is pay for what you read and only read what you pay for.
Ignore any free content, including this comment.
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Tell me who gives a single fuck about this kind of ultra-niche topics, to the point of making them reach the front page of HN? Insane people.
>"Edit: I guess my tone-projection is off. A lot of people seem to be put-off by my usage of the word "insane." I intended that as tongue-in-cheek and did not mean to imply that any of them literally have diagnosable mental illnesses. I have a lot of respect for all of the individuals I listed and they seem like nice people, I was just trying to make a point about how unusual their behavior is."
Uninformed, misinformed, disinformed? The majority... moral or otherwise.