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The story buries the lede, the real win for them is driver-facing cameras.

Can't wait until they install a printer so they can just print the tickets out right into my car.

Yes, absolutely. I often think about whether we should just go to the natural logical conclusion. Using GPS and speed data to automatically fine you if you speed and deduct from your linked bank account - you can contest this but you must pay first.

I dislike cameras as it feels like you're constantly performing and if you slip up, you don't get to learn, instead your mistake is archived and put up for others to scrutinize.

I get that we, as humans, enjoy documenting our world, but the idea a spy which will no doubt store data that is accessible either remotely or locally with the right tool, is now and has become so pervasive will probably be considered one of the most grotesque things future societies will look back on and think we were insane for ever allowing. So much of our history is lost to the ages, and frankly, it's best it stays that way.

There are toll highways, operated by local governments, that track when you get on and off using cameras at fixed points. They could do this today and choose not to. Probably because they know everyone speeds and that if they did, people would avoid the highway and revenue would drop.

No I think the idea that we allowed monkeys to operate 2 tonnes of machinery after some unspecified amount of depressants will be looked back on as a wild time in history that no one wants to return to.

Like "and they just started selling bullet proof backpacks instead of adapting the Holy Documents by the Founding Fathers (pbuh)?"

The more logical step would be having the GPS just limit the speed in the first place so speeding is impossible.

GPS has errors, outages. I actually have such a GPS device at work on my desk with a speeding alarm active and it does trigger occasionally, even with the indoor GPS repeater on.

Tough on speeding restrictions are also stupid. The Italians and Portugese found better ways to deter speeding: red lights with speed sensors at the entrance of low speed zones, localities and cameras with license plate readers that measure your average speed. You either get a red light or a fine for generally speeding as opposed to speeding for five seconds to overtake a slow car.

You dont need cameras for that at all. Its usually solved like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignition_interlock_device

Which usually has a camera so that if needed, they can verify that it was actually the driver blowing into the interlock and not a passenger.

I swear I saw this in a movie. Demolition Man? Judge Dredd?

Fifth Element

Fifth Element.

There is the auto-fine thing in demolition man for swearing

Demolition man. Iconic scene where he gets a bunch of tickets for using profanity as a substitute for toilet paper. What a bizarre movie and what a bizarre idea of a future that was.

Bizarre? Sounds like you don't know how to use the 3 shells

Printing tickets? You guys need to decide is the US is ahead of the world or decades behind. What's next, being pulled over for speeding?

Nahhh, we will withold medical care if there are unpayed tickets.

And inject a modal reminder into your web browsing on every page load with two buttons, "Pay Now" and "Remind me Later."

...in addition to all the other reasons we currently find to withhold medical care from undesirables.

The printers would run out of paper and would be distracting. More likely the fine would be auto-deducted from the soon to be government run blockchain that is shimmed into all the banks we use. Also more likely the car would pull over and refuse to let people out until the police arrive.

Here [1] is a video Utopia that describes our potential future.

[1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJYaXy5mmA8 [video]

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