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>Getting enough humans to work should be the bottleneck of the system to force treating them well and optimize everything around them.

I have the suspicion this will only be used to import cheaper labor, not to treat current labor better or pay them more.

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That is absolutely the plan. And if it weren’t for human-trafficked labor, we would have reached low points like this a long time ago. There are plenty more humans to traffic in the world, and the ruling elite has no problem starving them away from their families and communities then congratulating themselves as though they have done a good deed.

I was recently listening to population growth lecture from 90s Yale and among few things that really struck me was a phrase that said something to the effect of 'while the locals may object over their personal interests, we, the elite, may see it through a more wide economic lens'. It was fascinating and it helped me understand the deeply ingrained distrust in US population of the educated 'elite'. I always thought thought it was largely uninformed bias, as I keep listening to old Yale lectures, I learn that US populace is a lot smarter than most give it credit.

Without (recent) immigration the US population would be shrinking and aging trend. In addition a large part of immigration to the US is educated boosting the country even further. Immigration is not the problem' politicians selling the populace out for profits to corporations is a much bigger issue.

Maybe. Maybe not. People do respond to their current situation. It is hard to predict with a dose of certainty that X would happen as people could very easily reverse the predicted trend.

It may not be THE problem, but dismissing it as just one of the culture wars items is in itself counter-productive ( if only, because perception is reality and people do vote based on their belief systems ).

I do not disagree with you on the clear focus of US on the true beneficiary of this system ( corporations ).

Oh give me a break! With higher wages, the US Population would have its own children. I know I certainly would! And studies agree!

We can’t afford childcare and maintenance of standard of living. Dual income is a trap

Dual income was absolutely a trap and we fell for it by covering it with shiny messages of empowerment.

They never tell you who is actually being empowered and that’s your employer

I'm sure money is one reason people don't have kids but look at rich european countries compared to poorer countries. Families tend to be smaller, why?

This is getting harder to do. Wages are going up all over the world, and classic sources of immigration are no longer sending as many people abroad.

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