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This is an amazing milestone.

Once the Django community starts adopting Py3K, it's only a matter of time before the rest of the Python community follows suit.

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Django is not the only killer app for Python. In fact I would argue that scientific computing (numpy, scipy, pandas and friends) is no less, and in fact, may be more of a factor in transitioning to Python 3.

Many of those have moved already.

After Django gets ported, the only thing keeping me from jumping to Python 3 is PIL. PIL has indicated that a 3.x-compatible version is in the works: http://www.pythonware.com/products/pil/

The page has mentioned that for quite some time now, but I haven't heard of any actual effort on that front. Does anyone know if there's progress there?

Don't know, but see: http://hg.effbot.org/pil-2009-raclette

You hit the nail on the head for me. Those are exactly the three packages I need before I can migrate.

Go back and check, they're all running on 3 already.

Have a good migration :)

Oops I spoke too soon. I still need panda3d.

numpy and scipy are already Py3K-compliant. matplotlib is the odd one in the scientific community.

I was going to link to https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib-py3, but as of four days ago the 3.x branch was merged into the main repo: https://github.com/matplotlib/matplotlib.

pandas, numpy, and scipy all run on Python 3 now

Yes, sorry, I should have been more clear: there are communities (django developers or scientists or ...) whose buy-in of Python3 is crucial for its success. If they do not move to Python 3 it can just as well pack things now.

Django is a tiny part of the Python community as a whole. I've been doing python development for going on 12 years, and half the programmers I know use python professionally in one capacity or another, and I can honestly say I don't know a single person who gets paid use Django.

> I don't know a single person who gets paid use Django.

If not that, what sorts of work are they getting paid to do in Python?

Writing in house or custom desktop apps, data analysis/number crunching and visualizations in various fields, GIS work, non-web network services using twisted, and even web apps using other frameworks like werkzug, cherryPy and Zope/Plone. Other than low level embedded work, I can't think of a single area where I haven't heard of python being used.

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