To smart, creative, and most of all honest people, crypto = death.
A "quality discussion" around crypto by definition means excluding grifters such as Paris Hilton and Jimmy Kimmel.
It's a whole new level of greed. It used to be people just wanted to get rich. Blockheads seem to feel grievously wounded because some group of people (gamers, pet owners, classic car enthusiasts, etc.) has some money and they won't rest until they have it all.