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> They just couldn't wrap their heads around the idea that on the spreadsheet if you schedule someone on Friday until Midnight... starting them at Midnight on Saturday doesn't make a lot of sense / they would be working 20 hours in a row.

I started my career as tech support back in highschool. My boss told me this is illegal and stupid for my health when I said I'd like to work a shift similar to this once. I'm not sure of it's actually illegal, though.

> Perhaps they should all be required to go manage a McDonalds for a year or something?

Alas, I think McDonalds employees have enough to deal with; adding horrendous managers into the mix would just make their jobs more stressful lol

Honestly based on a lot of the information I have gathered and problems I have seen the problem is that the managers are subpar at managing and running things, as well as lacking leadership capabilities and that's what leads to a lot of the horrendous stories from employees.

I think it would be illegal in the UK/EU - you are required to have at least 11 hours rest in any 24 hour period, and only 8 hours of night work in any 24 hour period.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Working_Time_Directive_2003

In the UK is basically standard to sign away your rights from the working time directive with 99% of office jobs

When I worked in the UK (3 jobs over eight years) I was never asked to do that; the closest was that I was ask to sign as to whether the 48h/week limit would apply week-by-week, or averaged out over 17 weeks (as per the regulations).

I've worked a number of software roles (around 10 in the last 15 years) in the UK. Only been asked to sign away my working time directive once, and that was for an American owned company. I declined to do so, and still got the role.

> Perhaps they should all be required to go manage a McDonalds for a year or something?

I'm a middle aged man and I wish I could do a 3 month internship at a McDonalds. I'd probably learn a lot and RUN back to my current job.

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