If that is what it takes to force the invaders off their land.
> What is the end result planed here?
Ukraine winning. Will there be a lot of death and suffering to get there? Yes but in the end a country that big can't really be conquered if the people there do not want to be.
The same could be expected of Ukraine and Russia after this war.
The war has nothing to do with Ukraine joining NATO. It was a lame excuse by Putin. And Ukraine is not responsible for all the dead Russians in this war. It is on Putin 100%.
Remember: Russia could just leave. They're invaders in a foreign country fighting for its homeland. Do you think Ukraine is happy about blowing up what would be incredibly useful peace-time infrastructure?
I have very close relatives in both Ukraine and Russia. I don't want to see Russia burn, but this is a fire of their own doing.
You don't want to be called a Russia apologist, stop repeating Russian propaganda and excuses.
Yes, Russia could just leave, why aren't we trying to convince them of that other than supporting Ukraine with weapons? Where is the dialog? To make it clear, by dialog I do not mean conseeding any territory or giving into Putin.
I just responded to your question about "why no dialog" elsewhere in the thread.
I’m not sure there’s any possible dialog that will change his mind, particularly now he’s staked the country’s military reputation on being able to defeat Ukraine - he’s “all in”, afiacs - hence the (previously unthinkable) nuclear sabre rattling.