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OpenStack tried to become a container scheduler (Magnum), and then shifted to making kubernetes a first class citizen, it wasn't well received.

Oddly enough some of the kubernetes bare metal stuff is borrowing from OpenStack (Metal3 is built on ironic)

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The ironic stuff is some of the best services within OpenStack. Its a hard problem and it works surprisingly well.

'Ironic' is the OpenStack project that deals with bare-metal provisioning. And there is indeed some very cool stuff there!

Thanks! Ironic (ironicbaremetal.org) can be operated standalone outside of Ironic, and we do pay attention to non-OpenStack use cases (e.g. https://metal3.io/). If there's anything you're trying to do with Ironic that you're having trouble with, feel free to come chat. We're on IRC/Matrix on irc.oftc.net, #openstack-ironic.

-Jay, Ironic PTL

I remember when Magnum was being proposed and developed. I think the issue is that it really didn't have that much of a head start on Kubernetes, and the difficulty of getting OpenStack installed, just so that you could use Magnum, compared to just using Kubernetes, sort of doomed Magnum.

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