Presumably Apple also leveraged the Mac's unquestioned dominance of the PC space to enable the iPhone to beat established incumbents like Nokia, Blackberry and Palm.
And Android undoubtedly became popular primarily because of Google's dominance in web search.
I can't believe government regulators let these companies get away with such things.
Where can I go on MSN to read up more on your explanation for Windows Phone dominance?
It might not have stopped them from other problematic behaviors, put certainly had a braking effect on the "nothing can stop us" train they were riding. The direct effect could be the Windows Phone not crushing the better options, yes.
As you point out, Apple and Google sure need the same treatment, and it seems something is finally happening after all these years of abuse.
1. There were phones better than Windows Phone.
2. Microsoft failed to bully its way into dominance with a worse product.
3. Google and Apple, on the other hand, did.
What were the better products than Windows Phone? Certainly it wasn't Palm, Nokia, or Blackberry. You don't seem to think so, either.
Was it Android and IOS? Does this mean you think they are the better/best products? If so, why do you also assert #3?
> Google and Apple, on the other hand, did.
Both these companies bullied competition in other aspects than the OS in itself.
Google bullied makers through the Play Store+Play services bundling, forcing them to get rid of preinstalled third party stores and keep the Google search widget on the home screen and Google as the default search engine.
Apple bullied app makers by kicking any third party store, third party web engine, blocked third party content store and mail clients from getting default status. Apple’s top position as a music service comes from the iPod, but was also clearly cemented by locking out competition as the iPhone was the top selling smartphone. People are a lot more divided on where’s Apple’s fault, but at least I don’t see it as an issue of OS bundling the same way Microsoft crossed the line on OS bundling. Times have changed in this respect.
Google software and Android literally pushed Windows Phone out of existence, yes.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/262157/market-share-held...
Have you ever thought that Apple’s market cap may be because people choose to pay a premium for their hardware using their own free will?
Unfortunately for people who entered their ecosystem, there is a heavy influence to keep them there (more than a walled garden, an active insulation and inculcation - its hard to take your life elsewhere if you bought into the Apple ecosystem).
That's disappeared a bit with the cloud, but native apps still perform better, and a side effect of their walled garden is the apps that do survive tend to lack a lot of the junk and spyware that android users must dodge...
I think its a strong word to say "choose" - rather they are compelled.
Ofc some choose, but thousands of dollars in, its hard for the average to justify sinking that capital. Android phones don't sync with iCloud, don't connect to Apple TV, don't have iMessage or Facetime (at least I think not), don't sync their music libraries and don't do whatever it is Apple is selling gadget for these days.
I think if users were just choosing, it would be as easy to switch as it is to put on a different shirt. I can buy a shirt, I can't choose a phone.
I say this as someone unwilling to invest in phones or supporting gadgets, and also not entirely happy with Android either.
Where?
Any music you bought from iTunes since 2009 was DRM free. Apple Music runs on Android, Amazon Fire devices and a few other non Apple platforms.
The AppleTV app is available on every streaming platform and you can watch movies and TV shows you purchased. Apple also participates in the Movies AnyWhere initiative along with most of the major studios. Meaning when you purchase a movie from Apple, Amazon, Google, Vudu etc they are added to all of your libraries.
AirPlay support is available on Roku devices as well as a few other platforms.
AirPods work as standard BT devices on non iOS devices.
The standard file dialog that apps use to save and load files surfaces all of your installed storage providers (Dropbox, Google Drive, OneDrive, etc) equally along with iCloud. If you are on an Android and have to get files off of iCloud, you go to the web.
FaceTime has been available for Android for a couple of years.
> don't sync their music libraries and don't do whatever it is Apple is selling gadget for these days.
Almost everyone uses a streaming service in 2022 and Apple Music is available for Android.
None of it is about actually moving off it.
The few examples you mention such as bluetooth and mp3 files from iTunes are to do with an industry standard, not because of something Apple did.
” Apple also participates in the Movies AnyWhere initiative along with most of the major studios. Meaning when you purchase a movie from Apple, Amazon, Google, Vudu etc they are added to all of your libraries.”
I am not familiar with this, which libraries where?
Regardless, this doesnt seem like a winning proposition "Use android and just use all our apps on it", why?? You switch off Apple because it has issues so you continue to use Apple?
Better off never to enter in the first place.
“The industry” didn’t push for DRM free music. Apple did.
https://macdailynews.com/2007/02/06/apple_ceo_steve_jobs_pos...
“The Industry” wanted Apple to license FairPlay DRM to other sellers.
The claim was that you were locked into Apple’s ecosystem. The truth is that you can just as easily have a mix of Apple, Android Macs and Windows.
I forgot to mention that Apple has official plugins for Chrome and Firefox for Windows that let you sync bookmarks with Safari/iCloud.
> I am not familiar with this, which libraries where
https://help.moviesanywhere.com/hc/en-us/articles/1150045761...
It’s not a backdoor hack.
> Regardless, this doesnt seem like a winning proposition "Use android and just use all our apps on it", why?? You switch off Apple because it has issues so you continue to use Apple?
All what apps? You copy your files from iCloud to another storage provider. There are plenty of utilities that allow you to copy playlists over. Music you bought from iTunes is DRM free, etc.
No company that you buy TV shows from allow you to transfer them DRN free and there is nothing that Apple can do about the movie studios that won’t participate in MoviesAnywhere.
If you buy a digital book from Amazon, you have to use “their app” on other platforms. If you use Google Docs, you have to either export it or use “their apps” on other platforms. What’s the difference?