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Comparing Samsung to Apple is laughable. Samsung is clueless when it comes to product design. Their strategy can be best described as “throwing shit at the wall and see what sticks”. Latest attempt: foldable phones. Foldable phones will never be a thing again and their desperate marketing campaign is embarrassing. The only thing keeping them in the ring is their inarguably impressive manufacturing capabilities that allow them churn out a lot of different attempts but overall, they’re a ship without a rudder or a captain.

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What are you talking about? Foldable phone sales have been shaprly rising every year and they're a massive success for Samsung.

Did you actually look at any real facts before you spewed your crock?

3D TVs sales once rose sharply too and now they’re dead. I laughed at those back then too. Samsung sold ~10M foldable phones in the same time Apple sold ~240M iPhones. It might be a success to Samsung but it’s a drop in the bucket overall. The first wave of people that buy them will realize it’s a gimmick and sales will drop after equilibrium between marketing reach and consumer dissatisfaction is reached.

Yes, going from 0 to 5 is how new innovative products work. The iPhone you keep dragging out didn't sell all that great either - the shipment were counted in millions (not tens of millions you quite for Samsung) during first years of them as well.

I frankly find your aggressive tone here utterly bizarre - why do you so strongly need to defend Apple here? Can you explain that?

Why do you feel so personally offended that I think a company makes mediocre products? Why do you feel so compelled to defend them?

>The iPhone you keep dragging out didn't sell all that great either - the shipment were counted in millions (not tens of millions you quite for Samsung) during first years of them as well.

The iPhone created smartphones as we know them today. Comparing sales trajectories between 2007 and 2021 is stupid.

> Foldable phones will never be a thing again

While I agree w/r/tv their current incarnation, eventually “rollable” screens will be perfected and a shape-shifting phone will be popular. Either that, or AR will be thoroughly developed and the “phones as a concept will go away entirely.

That’s a long way from today, but it’s not “never”.

The current incarnation is exactly what I’m talking about. You don’t need to ship it and market the hell out of it just in anticipation for some other actually usable incarnation to reach maturity.

The waiting until a technology is mature enough to be useful to consumers is exactly what Apple is known for and what separates them from the rest.

Samsung as a company, I agree. Most of their lineup isn't really good and I agree they have weird ideas and invest into them too much - just admit it's going nowhere, damn it.

But the Samsung Galaxy S22 is a comparable phone to iPhone.

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