And this is why people buy macbooks. Apple products have a minimum guaranteed level of quality.
There isn’t another computing hardware company which doesn’t have a “hot garbage” tier of products.
There isn’t another computing hardware company which doesn’t have a “hot garbage” tier of products.
> There isn’t another computing hardware company which doesn’t have a “hot garbage” tier of products.
There were many more vertically integrated software-hardware PC companies in the 80s. A true shame that some of the others didn't survive; I'd love to be writing this message on my 2022 Acorn RISC PC or Amiga. What we witness now is the end result of the Wintel monopoly.
>A true shame that some of the others didn't survive; I'd love to be writing this message on my 2022 Acorn RISC PC or Amiga.
>What we witness now is the end result of the Wintel monopoly.
A great point, BeOS was basically the last attempt anybody had at creating a new desktop OS, and when it failed, so did the last vestiges of anybody else's appetite for trying again.
I love my Mac, but really enjoyed GEM on my Atari ST too.
I've never had much experience with it but heard some stories about its bad backward compatibility and not-too-pleasant upgrades. Thinking about finally getting a Macbook instead of my current Linux/Windows dual boot since Macs have the unique combination of professional-grade display, very powerful hardware and full support of proprietary apps that I need. And I mostly dislike Apple UX choices.
You can implement malware check in many ways. This one is the worst; it also introduces a huge attack surface.
With regards to OS upgrades, there has always been a vocal minority that likes to complain, ever since the System 7 days, sometimes not without reason but it's minor. Overall, the upgrades are decent, but I'll agree it's not always plain sailing for everyone. The thing with macOS is last year's Lemon is next year's gold. Rose tinted glasses are abundant online, especially with competing OSs.
In my personal, anecdotal experience, macos is more reliable than windows. Neither is as reliable as my 14-year-old but constantly updated and fresh today Gentoo/Linux install. But the things that a laptop needs, macos is better. So I have a macbook and a Gentoo/Linux workstation and I generally feel like I get the best of both worlds.
I also often just run a debian in qemu on my macbook rather than installing a bunch of software from macports or homebrew, which has worked very nicely.
I would say yes, but perhaps the worst-of-worst stories in this thread are prejudicing me. Things like in this thread don't happen on OX though.
(I honestly don't know what you're referring to about "bad backwards compatibility")
But if you mostly dislike Apple UX choices, you probably are going to mostly dislike using it as a daily machine, so.
Mac has been great. My 2015 MBP is still going strong, it was many updates behind and I resisted for a while but I eventually just upgraded to the latest (2-3 major versions) and it went perfectly smoothly.
Every company and ecosystem will have its quirks. But some are way more hostile than others, and I've never seen that level of hostility from apple (yet).
Ports can be annoying though but I'd rather take minor annoyances over big problems like this.
BTW -- one of the bigger problems with the forced Win10 upgrade was that it changed the UI / icons and for older folks caused a lot of grief, because they felt lost on top of everything else.
I bought a secondary laptop - a 12 inch Macbook Pro - and it took a few hours to set up. I didn't have to turn a bunch of things off. I didn't have to find the button that wouldn't send my entire life to a tech company. Just a few clicks and done. It's decently fast for such an old, underpowered machine, too.
For the most part, the OS gets out of the way.
I have Windows machines that do all the weird things people are posting in this thread.
Windows is a bother of epic proportions compared to MacOS. It's not even close.
But out of the box it works. Hard crashes are very rare. User hostile things like forced updates don't happen.
The worst things are much much less likely to happen than with hardware that runs Windows, and if something happens the tech support at Apple stores is pretty good. If you want a good Windows machine you have to do extensive research to figure out how not to get crap, and you still end up wrong sometimes. If your grandma wants a computer, you can just tell her to go to an Apple store and get whatever she wants and it'll work.
If I remember right their mac-thing was around 5 years old?
The idea in the link is that one transfer the System Root certificates from another (more modern) Mac to which the customer should already own. In theory I guess we as a email provider could continuously buy the latest version of mac and use that as the transfer host (hopefully do not transferring any account specific certificates). It must work without any corner cases (not overwriting anything on the customer end), the script need to work in future macos versions, and the assumption is that the first group of certificates is the relevant ones, and that it doesn't break anything on the customer end.
For those who has not read the link, this do not update the System Roots keychain since users are not allowed to do that in macos. Instead this adds a trustRoot certificate. A nice trick. One of the comments say that it didn't fix the problem for them but who know what their situation was.
Looking at the compatibility charts, everything from 2015 on-ward supports Monterey (2021, the latest version). The last laptop that couldn't update past El Capitan was 2009. As far as Macbooks (non-pro), last one stuck on El Capitan is the 2009 model as well.
And it's not even that Apple broke anything on the 13 year old laptop, it's just that the rest of the world moved on and they're no longer fixing it.
The customer must be running some truly ancient version of Mac OS for this story to be true.
Some providers (email and others) can also continue to support deprecated/broken security for a very long time in order to not having to deal with customers using old deprecated software. 512 bits RSA public keys for example was used a very long time, long past where different standards and recommendation had a much higher minimum. Algorithm and key attacks are quite rare so companies can keep a low security standard for many years/decades before anyone exploits it. For customers that could be seen as a positive or a negative depending on perspective.
My 2015 MacBook still runs absolutely fine.
For that matter, I'm considering (but probably not) buying a new iPad to replace my TEN YEAR OLD iPad that I'm still using every single day, as it can no longer update to the latest iPad OS.
But my 7 year old (soon 8 years old) laptop is as good as the first day I bought it.
IOW, if one is going to supply anecdotal data, probably best to make sure it's your anecdote, maybe?
In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if you could use an iPad as an external display with the Apple Pencil, but I haven’t researched that.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT210380
Luna Display is a more premium option.
The former isn't available for the iPad, the latter predates it, and I find the nearest analogue, Serif's Affinity Designer not quite right.
I also like having access to a file system, and the ability to run arbitrary opensource tools such as OpenSCAD and OpenSCAD Graph Editor and RapCAD.
[1] as in "is only licenced for", there are ways out of this...