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> Does anybody really use those for generic cloud projects though? My impression was that those were geared towards firms who have already bought heavily into the Oracle/IBM consulting/licensing.

You could say the same about Azure. I see a lot of click-next-collect-cheque being done in Azure, only with a browser instead of a desktop wizard.

WhatsApp, Fitbit, tumblr among many others ran on IBM. Of course none were what I’d consider “generic cloud projects”, they chose IBM bc of specific capabilities not easy to achieve on other hyperscalers. -unless you run your own hyperscaler.

Zoom runs on Oracle Cloud. I guess Red Hat's managed stuff now runs on IBM cloud but they bought their way into that.