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Comment by CharlesW | Hacker News Reader

> Apple’s strategy to handicap Safari/Web is paying off big time, but it is hitting consumers.

This has nothing to do with Safari. This is about Apple taking a cut of in-app purchases for a niche case where it formerly did not. As TFA notes, Apple had been politely asking Facebook (not users, as you suggest) to do this for years.

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Apple has (allegedly) deliberately handicapped mobile safari to make sure you can only ship a good mobile experience via an app.

That gives the the leverage to demand the cut from everything, because they can then kick you off of iphones if you don't comply.

Or, this has everything to do with safari because surely Apple wishes that every experience with the web was through apps so they would make 30% of all e-commerce revenue.

What OP means is that because Apple hadicaps Safari then everybody has to use their appstore where apple takes cut.

I don't get it everyone and their VCs is forcing you to build native apps because they can extract more data than from an PWA or website. They could allow every rendering engine and they would still force you to install the app. The only exception might be telegram their mobile pwa is quite nice.

That’s because the web is handicapped on iOS. If web was as capable, of course they wouldn’t stress apps as much.

Not just Safari but all web browsers on iOS, they all have to be webkit...all are handicapped to push users to apps from the app store.

Is the situation that different on android? AFAIK anyone can ship a full fledged browser there. But I got the impression that native apps are just a heavily favoured as on iOS.

Can someone explain how they “handicap” safari? If they are handicapping it, somehow every website I frequent has gotten around the issue at least well enough that I am not forced to go for an app experience.

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