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Like what? I think it's generally agreed that their main product, the GNOME UI, uh, sucks.

You know that that is (your/an) opinion, right? I think it is not at all "generally agreed". It wouldn't be the default on most major distros if it did. And even if it was, why would you care even?

Inertia and being "good enough" is massive factor. Average user don't give a shit frankly

It is certainly possible that GNOME is only popular because of legacy inertia, and that it will eventually be surpassed by other desktop environments as, by definition, inertia doesn't last forever.

But it's worth acknowledging that it's also possible that a large number of people simply disagree with you and actively choose it on its own merits.

The second factor is being "good enough". Not many people will move DE if they are 5, 10, even 25% better. The complaints are also mostly from power users

Especially now where most of stuff you do is "switch between few full screen apps" so as long as access to the basics is not obstructed I'd imagine most users wouldn't care

GNOME UI is very snappy and pragmatic, in my opinion much better than macos on a laptop screen for example. Out of every OS, I will happily use Gnome on wayland without a second thought, and I’m not alone.

gnome was the chosen ui and now its terrible, aiming for a mythical apple convert who wants a touch friendly interface

gnome 2 was the truth. im curious if id still be running gui's today if gnome didnt crap the bed so bad, im mainly in tmux now.

Switch to Mate.

these days if i must have a gui, it's xfce because it does the moves that got it to the dance, nothing more and nothing less.

MATE is a fork of Gnome 2. I like it very much, and it's available on all major distros and on the BSD systems.

It's the perfect UI for this ex-MacBook user on the Surface.

I'm glad somebody made a UI that actually works in both form factors. All that's missing is a swipe keyboard.

see? my point.

Not your point. We're not mythical creatures. We exist.

this doesn't need to be a crips and bloods thing. some day you'll assimilate. everyone has their own timeline.

I'm not sure what you mean by this comment to be honest! But I've been using Linux for the past 15 years, with a detour to OS X for a while cause all the DEs/WMs sucked in the KDE4/early GNOME 3 era.

Modern GNOME 3 is finally a good UX on Linux.

Try as you may but you're not going to get me to crack, my friend. I've been on Linux since the mid nineties. Things were much better for us before i-things rose to prominence, UI wise. I still love you as a fellow nerd and human, however, I do have some wishes that your laptop be smote, if only just to give you enough reprieve to notice the err of your ways.

It’s also very good on a laptop with a touchpad. You swipe up for overview, swipe left right for another desktop, each desktop contains a few windows. It’s easy and fast.

yes, this is one of many examples of gnome 3 deferring to MacOS's UX language

I also like it. plenty of the guys I collaborate with do too. what data are you going from?

Does the file picker show thumbnails yet?

That's it right, the one thing always brought up. What a horrible DE Gnome must be.

The missing feature/bug is small and local.

The inability to fix it is an indicator of a cultural/organizational problem.

No, but hopefully that issue is resolved soon: https://feaneron.com/2022/10/21/the-death-of-the-meme/

Omg, what will the GNOME haters do now... They will have to make up something new.

I like it

Well, that's okay. But lots of people don't and I've never seen anyone using it. I've seen Unity, XFCE, i3, and KDE, but no GNOME.

Look harder.

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