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I think Apple will come out with the best hardware.

Why?

1. Best mobile SoC designs by far. Not even close.

2. Hardware company at heart. Their culture is built for hardware.

3. Way more supply chain and mass manufacturing experience which means cheaper manufacturing.

4. Hardware designed for iPhone, iPad, Mac can be reused for VR/AR which means lower costs and more economy of scale. IE. M2 is used on both iPad and Macs. M2 cores are derived from A15 from iPhone 13.

Does Valve have a great track record with hardware? The Steam Machines, Steam Controller and the Steam link aren't really talked about or mentioned in gaming circles anymore.

My guess is Valve is bought by Apple at some point.

Uh...are you forgetting that Valve owns Steam?

There's no way Valve would ever be sold to Apple.

Ya i know, do you think the Gov would not allow it?

No, I think Valve doesn't want to be bought, whether it's through an acquisition or by IPO.

Valve was bootstrapped by Gaben. It doesn't have any investors that want an exit, doesn't need to raise funds, and Gaben is already a billionaire. They have no incentive to sell themselves.

I def agree, but things change. Gabe will get older at some point and something will happen. If not him, his kids.