Somali Law (2013)
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My favorite chapters are probably the ones on Irish and Jewish law.
I hate to think what happens if you swear on your mother's life...
The sky is green!
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There is a scene in Njal's Saga that provides striking evidence of this stability. Conflict between two groups has become so intense that open fighting threatens to break out in the middle of the court. A leader of one faction asks a benevolent neutral what he will do for them in case of a fight. He replies that if they start losing he will help them, and if they are winning he will break up the fight before they kill more men than they can afford. Even when the system appears to be breaking down, it is still assumed that every enemy killed must eventually be paid for. The reason is obvious enough; each man killed will have friends and relations who are still neutral— and will remain neutral if and only if the killing is made up for by an appropriate wergeld.
Our main sources of information on the Icelandic system are the sagas, a group of histories and historical novels written in Iceland, mostly in the late thirteenth and early fourteenth centuries. On first reading, they seem to describe quite a violent society. That is hardly surprising. At least since Homer, the spectacle of people killing each other has been one of the principal ways in which writers entertain their audience. The chief innovation of the saga writers was to spend as much time on law suits as on the violent conflicts that generated them. The one error in the quotation from Bryce with which I started this chapter is the claim that the chief occupation of Icelanders was killing each other. The chief occupation of the characters of the sagas appears to be suing each other; the killings merely provide something to litigate about.
A more careful reading of the sagas tells a different story. The violence, unlike that in contemporary accounts elsewhere in Europe, is on a very small scale. The typical encounter in a saga feud involves only a handful of people on each side; everyone killed or injured is named. When two such encounters occur in consecutive chapters of a saga it seems as though the feuding is continual—until you notice that a character not yet born at the time of the first encounter is participating in the second as an adult. The saga writers telescope the action, skipping over the years that separate the interesting parts.
[1] http://www.daviddfriedman.com/The_Machinery_of_Freedom_.pdf
The death penalty for murder is understandable, even if you don't agree with it.
> if the murderer succeeds in fleeing abroad, a member of his family of equal status may be put to death in his stead
> if the killer escapes, his family owes two lives instead of one
But killing other innocent people as a penalty for murder is indefensible, even if they are from the same family as the murderer.
Is it better to live in a world where 1000 murders happen a year and half the murderers escape punishment because they ran, or one with 100 murders where 10 ran and family members were killed in their place? That's a lot less deaths!
Nuclear MAD is an extreme example of this - it's very obviously immoral to kill a few million civilians in retaliation for the murder of other civilians. But that's what MAD is! And in practice, it's likely prevented millions of deaths due to war.
It is also not clear if nuclear MAD actually "works". It is a convenient story to justify cold war security measures and military spending.
The deterrance value of promising a second strike is high, but the actual military gain of performing the second strike is small. States are strongly incentivized to announce MAD, but to not actually go through with it. If you are defeated by a first strike and cannot win the war conventionally, it is more logical to surrender unconditionally than to render the world uninhabitable. When it was clear that Germany would lose WW2, Hitler issued the Nero Decree and ordered the self-destruction of German infrastructure, but even the radicalized Germans didn't go though with it.
To add to this, the actual war plans of NATO and Warsaw Pact were centered around swift tank warfare in central Europe. Nuclear weapons were supposed to be used tactically, to deny ground and to destroy groups of tanks. But of course the US military preferred to talk about their awesome power to hit Russian cities, rather than about their plans to deploy nuclear mines in the middle of West Germany.
After a nuclear strike, most population centers would be glassed and something like 70% or more of the urban population would be dead. As a survivor of the attacked nation, I would feel more than entitled to strike back. Maybe not at the entire world though.
Anyways, there would be no long, agonizing consideration whether to strike back or not, just semi-automated protocols to confirm and trigger a counterstrike. And dead hand protocols in case central control was eliminated.
Using nukes tactically in tank warfare would have eventually escalated to their strategic use. It was just a question of time since frontlines don't just freeze in conveniently unpopulated territory, but will eventually reach population centres.
Edit: Of course it is not possible to prove that MAD "works". In the case of an escalation, mutual destruction would prove that it didn't work. And the current "peace" can be plausibly argued to have come about anyways. But that's not really the point of MAD. In WW2, nukes were use to force an entrenched enemy nation to surrender. This use of nuclear weapons was indeed obsolete once all potential targets had their own nukes and could strike back if somebody tries to Hiroshima them.
Almost like what "family" would mean in the Godfather movies.
We may have technology and laws but we sometimes still act like super violent monkeys, and the funny thing is we only realize our mistakes when it's over then we repeat the same thing a couple decade later when we forget the pain of it.
That's not how we do it in the West generally, so yes, importing those punishments seems barbaric, but that's just because you may not ride or die with your family, defer all major decisions to your elders, etc.
I love reading specifics of other cultures, exposing as they do the values that I mistakenly understood to be universal. Even secular, Enlightenment ideas are informed by Christian ideals regarding sin, salvation, forgiveness and redemption; I, not a Christian, nevertheless "hold these truths to be self-evident". A culture without that tradition no doubt finds our Western system to be at least as bizarre.
Even so, our own legal system is less concerned with lofty ideas of Justice than it is with maintaining order and stability. If you read through this system again in that light, all of it seems quite rational. A society in which there is no central authority decides transgression and punishment based on centuries of tradition, a history of trial-and-error, so to speak.
> But killing other innocent people as a penalty for murder is indefensible, even if they are from the same family as the murderer.
From the perspective of the legal system, the family is not innocent: they produced and raised a murderer and outlaw. For the sake of the broader community, the family must be corrected.
See also:
http://www.daviddfriedman.com/Academic/Course_Pages/legal_sy...
It was subsequently parodied here:
https://slatestarcodex.com/2020/03/30/legal-systems-very-dif...
> Finally the authorities handed down a change to the system: the plaintiff and defendant would agree on two lawyers to conduct the trial. Then the judge would flip a coin, and one of the two would be assigned at random to each party.
This seems very interesting...I wonder what the game theoretic optimal strategy is and how the analysis would change if
1. the coin decides who picks first
2. the coin had a known bias
and so on.
If I end up with the bad lawyer, I lose the case, and move onto my next victim.
If I get my lawyer, I get a great defence lawyer to get me off all charges. If the other side get my lawyer, a great defence lawyer is doing a pretty inept job of trying to prosecute me.
"Examples throughout history prove the state is not only inherently evil, but also unnecessary to provide satisfactory legal resolutions. For example, in U̵t̵o̵p̵i̵a̵ Somaliland satisfactory resolutions are ensured by independent judges free to make up their own legal principles, murder is deterred by having suspected murderers' family members executed (if they're too poor to pay the fine), clans claim the right to extract larger fines for the same offence if committed by outsiders and judgements may either be accepted or enforced by vendetta"
(And much as there's a certain school of thought that's determined to make literally everything about the USA, I suspect the 30,000 Ethopian troops invading in support of the TFG had more impact on the ICU's collapse - and subsequent assimiliation into the new government - than anything the CIA or Bush government did)
The opposite also happens, with Ethiopia treating Somaliland as a centralized state and trying to find a single counterparty for cross-border cooperation to make things legible. E.g. when one private utility operator in Somaliland wanted to import electricity from the Ethiopian state-owned power company, the Ethiopian side urged the many different Somali utilities to form a single entity for the deal: https://www.capitalethiopia.com/2022/09/25/somaliland-forms-...
Was one of the few "see-the-matrix" moments I've had in my life.
Somali Law - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11318156 - March 2016 (28 comments)
The jiffo-paying group is a subset of dia-paying group
tldr political systems in other countries are different
> Judges are not officials with a position and salary but arbitrators accepted by the disputants. A judge has no special rights,16 such as the right to summon or cross-examine a witness. Nor is the judge viewed as an authoritative source of law. His job is to settle conflicts by applying the rules that people in the community normally observe. A judge who produces verdicts that meet general disapproval is unlikely to be asked to judge cases in the future.
> Neither politicians nor religious dignitaries are responsible for developing or interpreting the general law, and, as a rule, neither can function in the law as judge, witness, or enforcer. Folk wisdom includes the sayings “One can change one’s religion; one cannot change the law” and “Between religion and tradition, choose tradition.”
It further goes into the intricacies of how conflicts are meant to be handled.
What are you talking about? Have you ever seen long-form articles from the New Yorker or so?