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Never understand how the Beastie Boys don't get more acknowledgement for contributing to the sound that RATM used.

Or Run DMC and Aerosmith with "Walk this way" produced by none other than Rick Rubin which role in the emergence of hip hop is extremely underated, as he one of the founder of most famous hip hop label, Def Jam.

Rick Rubin is pretty well known to anyone with even a basic history of hip hop I think? Like dude is referenced in 99 problems, one of the most popular hip hop songs of all time. I only sort of follow hip hop and I immediately knew who you were talking about, I have to hope people that care deeply about the topic know dude matters?

I can guarantee you a lot of younger hiphop listeners have never heard of Rick Rubin. Russel Simmons? sure.

What do you see as the main similarities? I don't really feel like the Beasties' early rock sounds were that much closer to RATM than, say, Run-DMC or even Schoolly D's "Signifying Rapper". The Anthrax collaboration version of "Bring The Noise" might be even closer, but it was released after RATM's debut was recorded.

Beastie Boys was a hardcore band before all the songs you mentioned, the fourth member is the drummer of Luscious Jackson. Or before they became a rap group.

Edit: Beastie Boys as a hardcore band pre-dates RATM's or Zach's Inside Out. I think the GP is correct.

Huh, haven't heard the name "Luscious Jackson" in a long long time. I really liked a few of their songs.

Anthrax released “I’m The Man” in 1987, which could be considered rap metal.

In full agreement, i feel like they already explored that sound before rage took it to a new and more commercially successful/influential level.

The Beastie Boys were never out to change things. They wanted to have fun and gave us the best live performance of a one chord song ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZ5yKJlhbiA

>> The Beastie Boys were never out to change things

Musically there is pre-Paul's Boutique and post-Paul's Boutique.

They changed things. If you haven't listened to it for some reason, listen to it.

Gettin' old like Ali Boomba Yay So fed up with racism today It's time to speak up and not turn away Make the sun shine when it's cloudy and gray

Dip dip dive, so-so-socialize Open up your ears and clean out your eyes If you learn to love, you're in for a surprise It could be nice to be alive

I want to say a little something that's long overdue The disrespect to women has got to be through To all the mothers and the sisters and the wives and friends I want to offer my love and respect to the end

The Beastie Boys? Not out to change things? I do believe that they asked their listeners to fight, for their rights (to party)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBShN8qT4lk

I think the Beastie Boys have had more than enough acknowledgement. They must be the most overrated band in history. Nobody is brave enough to speak up about this matter.

I always felt like they borrowed heavily from Public Enemy. PE had the rap/rock fusion down in 1986/7. Listen to songs like Sophisticated Bitch or She Watch Channel Zero with Vernon Reid (of Living Color) on guitar, or the Bring The Noise track with Anthrax, all of which predates RATM by a mile.

Public Enemy had a unique sound never really rivalled by anybody and they lived and breathed fighting the power.

The vocals have somewhat similar timbre and delivery, but that's about it. What else do you hear?

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